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i do not need you for anything

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just checking the stream

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in case anybody's watching right now i'm

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all right let's see

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it's amazing right i can stream you can

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see me and it's not a big yellow blob

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and i can even put your your uh

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all right good click on the link

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ask me some questions if you really

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don't want to be on camera you can do

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that you don't have to

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what's up ally you don't have to uh open

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yeah it's amazing thanks to uh

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michael and austin for helping me

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but stream yard's pretty easy once you

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get past the basics which i had not in

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i'm excited about what's going on um

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just this i wouldn't say it blows away

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2017 coverage media wise but

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putting out all those links

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the show's about you guys so hopefully

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you guys get questions

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question by joe i don't want to say his

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from task and purpose which is a

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website organization they cover media

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does the pentagon have bod alien bodies

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reporters get involved and

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come on guys you gotta call in otherwise

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it's boring it's just me i need to see

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if it works too

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what's up james come on james call in

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bug somebody rumor on twitter

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you're welcome we'll see what lou does i

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link here hold on

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that would be smart to put the link here

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i put it on twitter but i could put it

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so try hold on

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so that's the invite

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so try that you're not really calling

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i don't know how i got your uh comment

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on there chris

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try that link and then you should pop

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into my studio and then i just add you

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and i may need to mute this but we'll

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there's no international number in terra

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i don't know if i say your name right

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there's the link click on the link give

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you're welcome ufos on the level glad to

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do it i don't think i cannot do it

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even if i don't even if i want to not do

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avoid this here we go it's chris audio

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i can hear you clear already chris yes

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you can hear me you're my first caller

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what's your name and where are you

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arie51 and my names are

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no it's good um i'm going to add

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it's going to be audible yeah it's me

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so we have three of you guys how are you

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doing mintera am i saying it right

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well my name is actually gabby but you

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gabby where you calling from i'm calling

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i'm actually a guy that's been asking

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alien human collaboration blog

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alien human story you know how's that

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lynne buchanan i will send you something

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gabby so just send me an

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email i'll get your i'll send you a dm

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so chris chris what do you think about

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what's going on and then we'll get to

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i thought today was amazing i

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can't believe jeff shuttle reached out

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on the story he was working on and it's

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going to be featured tomorrow

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that's great yeah it was it's it's been

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a mind trip and then on top of that my

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vindication yeah i have not gotten that

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although my ex-wife did say did you know

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11 objects surrounding a ship i'm like

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joe give me one give me one minute so

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i'm so i can plug my headphones

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and we don't have these like a strange

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you want me i'm a nobody i always think

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the same way why would anybody care

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they like what i'm doing but it still

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surprises me that anybody wants to hear

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anything i have to say

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happy for you for danny for giuliano

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alien bodies and craft so soon so that

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three you know high government officials

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anonymous sources to comment on it

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what's in that report

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door open apparently on foreign

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chris i'm going to let you go i'm going

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to try to keep you at a time i'm going

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to get to gabby

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thank you so much for being my first

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caller ever no problem

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say hello to your son all right soon all

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gabby yeah i'm back

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yeah gabby you are on and john i just

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added you good to see you first you're

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my first video call ever it looks good

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thanks gabby what do you have to say

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about what's going on right now the

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report the media coverage i'm not sure

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what kind of coverage is in mexico but

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uh there's barely any coverage of this

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you know normal citizen not part of the

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ufo media or whatever trying to attack

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certain outlets newspapers there's

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uh coming in from yesterday what i

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personally think is

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is that it's very strange that there's

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almost no mention of

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the materials the crash retrievals the

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history that's already out there all the

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uh

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black bald paperwork that's online i

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mean it's very strange that the

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conversation even though it's a

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universal topic you know

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life outside of the planetary it's

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still very simplistic because all the

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data is out there and

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there is a lot of data so that's kind of

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strange

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you know one of the big things that i

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remember was the mexican air force video

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the flair video from the mexican air

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force a few years ago if you guys

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remember that

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the first thing that shocked me was the

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mix that mexico had an air force no

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offense

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[Laughter]

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i'm just messing with you it was an easy

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joke come on it was easy it was like a

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t-ball

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but uh no seriously i was i was really

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really surprised

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at that video it was really um the data

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was all there it was

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really authentic you can nothing was

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really redacted from any of that it was

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just kind of released

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and i remember making a big splash for a

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while but then it kind of fizzled out

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but i mean

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i thought i was under the oppression and

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maybe this is wrong maybe you can tell

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us that

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in mexico it's almost like a uh

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an everyday thing it's like oh yeah

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they're up there all the time a lot of

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the biggest sightings in the world i

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think from mexico

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and um it's just kind of like it's not a

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big deal for people right right

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i mean uh ufo media

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media coverage in mexico has been mainly

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done by this guy jaime mulsanne

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right like a huge media personality but

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that has caused a lot of uh people to

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be turned off by it you know because of

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his sensationalistic approach

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there was the jonathan reid case which

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kind of like

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really hurt his reputation at the same

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time people in

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i think most of latin america are more

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open to that subject

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i know you were joking but like you said

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like mexican air force capabilities are

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like obviously

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in another level like below of the

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united states of that conversation

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i'm not sure how like deep can go as far

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as uh analysis of

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the second scientific kind um

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i don't know like in the trinity book

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for example jack ballet

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mentions having sent some of the uh that

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bar

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i don't know how to call it the metal

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bar that's uh main point of discussion

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about the book

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that actually was analyzed in mexico but

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i never heard anything about that so

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um i don't know it's kind of strange

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because like you said there was like

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this mexican air force case

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like 10 years ago and it wasn't national

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news

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for like a month maybe like two weeks

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but after that

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you know people gotta work people gotta

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do their thing so

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well gabby i appreciate you calling in

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and i will contact you

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on twitter and we will exchange some

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information so i will i will update

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you a little bit on the alien military

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connection alleged connection and

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working together

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i'm going to bring in somebody else i

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love it okay before that

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before that let me say this thank you so

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much for the transcripts for all you do

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brother i appreciate it

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you're doing great work hopefully you

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will continue doing these video calls

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and i just want to say personally

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thank you brother thank you so much i

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appreciate that and we'll talk soon

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all right see you later okay yeah it's

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that i'm adding michael michael to the

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stream good to see you michael

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what's up guys how are you oh look at

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that listen to that microphone that

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sounds like

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professional pro super pro

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you know just back to what um gabby was

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saying about jonathan reed i remember

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i went to a mufon meeting in florida in

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the 90s and jonathan reed was there

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and he talked about his family remember

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the story alien in the freezer

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so yeah so he claimed he was shot at

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like all these like

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like a dozen times the the the

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government was coming after him so i

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said

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do you have any like and i was i'm open

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all right whatever show me some evidence

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i don't haven't i said do you have any

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like medical records at all

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that show that you were like shot and

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treated for any shots you know

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gunshots he's like would it matter

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and then the audience started yelling at

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me there was yelling sit down

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sit down leave him alone oh my god

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oh my god so that's how i felt last

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night kind of on the call you know with

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um

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with danny you know when i kind of

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jumped in for a minute i was just kind

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of like the voice of

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like not what everybody was talking

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about for a minute that's just kind of

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you know everybody was like you know

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lulu you know chris chris chris and i'm

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like hey wait a minute you ever step

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back and realize that lou was a dis

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information agent that's his job like

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maybe he decided to just do everything

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he's doing right now but i'm just

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i just want to remind people that oh

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yeah that's one

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of these things now you've done it danny

431
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and chris

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and juliana were like really close and

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we we've talked about that in the very

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beginning we didn't just totally ignore

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it because people think that like

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we just went into this wide-eyed like

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you know no no no no no no

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i'm not saying a lot of people do i

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think a lot of people do that's right

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i question i do question eva even up

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until this day i question

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question everything and i mean i say it

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all the time

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but i do in the back of my mind i'm like

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you know yeah yeah no i think that's

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what i was just trying to get across is

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like hey man just don't take everything

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from face value even you know just just

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use your own brain use your own logic

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just kind of

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come up with some things do some reach

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research and you know if the

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puzzle piece is fit then cool and if not

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then just keep asking more questions you

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know don't just take everything they're

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selling you know

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i agree i agree yeah and i'm gonna

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bounce out i know you're gonna get some

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other people here thanks for doing this

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i'm glad i got to be your first video

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guy

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and uh that's great thank you yep and

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you guys have a fantastic night all

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right take care

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you too have a good one man so how you

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doing michael

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i'm good i'm good how are you uh

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congratulations on the stream and

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getting it going and getting people in

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here man it takes a while it took me

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it took me a year to get anybody to call

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so you're like fired up and people are

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lining up man

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that's so good for you congratulations

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thank you i've been at it for a long

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time on twitter so

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i know and i'm just saying just saying

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yeah yeah good stuff i want to know

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though actually did you get your uh

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alien oreo cookies yet or

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you waiting on that i do not have

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you sure okay well i'm not sure if i'm

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gonna get any but uh

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i'm told they're a limited time only so

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just in case

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anybody out there wants to get your

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alien oreo cookies when did these come

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out

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are you serious yeah i don't know what

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you're talking about

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oh so these it actually hit the news

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yesterday that they were marketing these

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uh

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oreos marketing alien oreo cookies as an

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offering

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for the ufo 180 day report

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so there they had a commercial with a

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crop circle with the oreo

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burned in the crop circle and everything

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and i was like

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marketing love the marketing yeah and so

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so the joke i was making last night when

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i was talking about this

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is like okay so what's next guys is it

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going to be like uh

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burger king and right we're going to

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have the little little alien toys and

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the happy meals and

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what's what's next right that's what's

510
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next where's tic tac you know how

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yeah yeah where have they been they

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missed out that's a good point that's

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that would be a perfect uh a perfect

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example of what you

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like line up the perfect marketing for

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right like the tic tacs why not

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why not and you you are in vegas like me

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right

519
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yeah yeah out here in vegas north uh

520
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north side

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nice yeah yeah like i said i just want

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to jump on and say what's up uh

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i wanted more make fun of the oreo

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cookies than anything else and

525
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and and the marketing that's probably

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coming like the uh the the

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summer of saucers or whatever we're

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going to call this right because it's

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it's on the way like the uh i'm a little

530
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frustrated with the news cycles and

531
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the way the rest of the stuff is

532
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happening you know me like i i pay close

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attention to it like many other people

534
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here but

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um and i don't know and i'm with you now

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like i disagreed with you the first time

537
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we talked about this about lou elizondo

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i changed my mind about him i i think

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that he's uh he's definitely seems to be

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at least at least honest he seems like

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he's an honest guy to me either that or

542
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he's a hell of a disinformation agent

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right like

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the last time i said to somebody i said

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say i said either

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you know lou is the greatest thing

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that's ever happened to us in ufology

548
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or he's the most amazing liar i've ever

549
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met

550
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exactly exactly and i would have to just

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totally

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reset my judgment because i've never

553
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i've never sensed him

554
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me personally i've never sensed any lies

555
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or deception so if that turned out to be

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the case which i don't think is the case

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i would be like

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i don't know what i would be thinking

559
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yeah yeah same here same here so

560
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,720
you know the decoupling from tom delong

561
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:06,000
i think did him a ton of good

562
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,840
in that whole ttsa thing did we ever

563
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,200
find out what happened with that

564
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:11,280
did you see that uh there was a i think

565
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,120
basterfield was saying

566
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:15,600
that uh there was a report that said

567
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:18,080
that lou elizondo was possibly fired

568
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:21,840
from ttsa did you see that laid off or

569
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,720
oh i did not see that i did not see that

570
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:26,240
i mean laid off would not surprise me

571
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,679
because there's no there's no money

572
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,360
coming in it's always been a problem

573
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,360
even i heard with their materials

574
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,120
research there was no money coming in

575
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,640
so it's like they couldn't get anything

576
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,240
done then that's why he's going

577
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:38,000
entertainment full-on right now and got

578
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,360
rid of some of the people

579
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:42,159
like lou and and put off and i don't

580
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:42,960
know how much

581
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:45,520
you know if put off was a paid person or

582
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,880
if justice you know

583
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,640
but i think that's what happened whether

584
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,840
or not there was something else falling

585
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,720
out wise i mean

586
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,640
ludin wasn't able to do any interviews

587
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,559
because supposedly you know the long one

588
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,720
you know the company wouldn't let him so

589
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,400
now he's now it's obviously that's not a

590
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:00,480
problem now

591
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,159
yeah well you know exactly exactly

592
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,640
uh yeah yeah and the the crazy part is

593
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,000
there's so much news coming out with

594
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:09,840
all that stuff that it's impossible to

595
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:11,440
keep track like i figured if anybody

596
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:12,480
knew you'd know

597
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,520
right and you hadn't even heard of the

598
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,679
bastard field thing yet so i mean that

599
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,440
like it's it's tough to keep track of

600
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:19,120
dude like we you and i

601
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,640
collectively spend a lot of time doing

602
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,640
this and and there's so many details

603
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:24,000
that come flying through that it's like

604
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,120
okay is this

605
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,960
is this legitimate or is this not are

606
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:28,720
the aliens real or the aliens

607
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:31,760
what's going on with this that's it

608
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,760
yeah you know no you know the deal

609
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,360
exactly and there's

610
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,280
well and there's also another report

611
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,000
related to basterfield that he put out

612
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,400
it was a report by christian lambright

613
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,360
and

614
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:45,039
in the report he's saying basically that

615
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,559
the whole skinwalker story

616
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,960
about how asap came about where the dia

617
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,880
scientist had an experience and then

618
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,400
he went to read and said hey we need to

619
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,480
study this this guy was saying that

620
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,880
is not true that was just a cover story

621
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,640
they had the plans before that but as

622
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,240
far as i know that's not true

623
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,720
that really did happen but that person

624
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:04,000
lekatsky the scientist

625
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,440
he has not come out yet that's one of

626
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,360
the big names i would love to come out

627
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,200
that lou always says there are people

628
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:11,279
that could back up my story but i am not

629
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:12,480
going to out them

630
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,480
and you know i wouldn't expect them to

631
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:15,840
the guy wants to stay in the shadows

632
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:16,400
that he

633
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:19,279
you know i mean i felt bad mentioning

634
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,240
his name but

635
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,520
you know i didn't make any promises

636
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,880
there are people that made promises not

637
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,640
to bring his name up but i tried not to

638
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,720
bring it up too much

639
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,880
he's uh i can't remember what i read

640
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,320
recently but somebody was trying to get

641
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,840
an interview with him was it was it

642
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,679
jason calaveto or

643
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:34,960
one of those guys i don't know they were

644
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,880
trying to like uh expose him or

645
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,440
something

646
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,200
i don't know if it's that guy anyway

647
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:41,120
like i'll have to follow up on that but

648
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,840
it just

649
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:44,080
i did see his name in a report recently

650
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,360
where somebody was trying

651
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:47,600
to get an interview with him and you may

652
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,039
know the source on that but um

653
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,200
i don't know like so like i said so much

654
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,799
there's so much information here that to

655
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:53,840
kind of track down

656
00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:56,320
and this is a big name in there that

657
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,440
probably knows a ton

658
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,880
of the things that the questions we we

659
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,480
end up asking all the time so

660
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:02,240
he knows so much and i did not hear that

661
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,600
somebody was trying to get in

662
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,919
and get an interview with him um but

663
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,360
back to the media coverage it was nice

664
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,440
to see the media laughing but today this

665
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,799
one cbs this

666
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,400
cbs this morning they were laughing at

667
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,480
the government for saying

668
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,080
we can't you know it's we don't have any

669
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,080
evidence of aliens but we also can't

670
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,679
rule it out so they're like

671
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,760
what kind of answer is that so they

672
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:23,039
changed the headline

673
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,400
you know what people are like well ufo

674
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,840
twitter got them to change the headline

675
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,279
i don't know if that's the case

676
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,559
whatever happened they changed the

677
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,320
headline you know which was nice

678
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,760
but of course people will not a lot of

679
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,279
people will not see the second headline

680
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,960
they'll see the first headline

681
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,559
yeah yeah exactly well and that's that's

682
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:40,080
the game isn't it and then

683
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,679
three days down the road they'll retract

684
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,679
something in there and put a little uh

685
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:45,600
a little uh correction at the bottom or

686
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:47,039
something you know it's the game they

687
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,600
play

688
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,679
uh milk the clicks and then change the

689
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:52,159
story and then never never circle back

690
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,520
and that's what makes it frustrating

691
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:55,200
right we're dealing with a dishonest

692
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:58,720
media core and yeah anyway

693
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,080
anyway yeah well

694
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,200
um i want to see if

695
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,039
the new york times does a follow up on

696
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,200
the crash retrieval stuff because

697
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,039
there's more information there and like

698
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:13,120
i said jeff shogel asking that question

699
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:14,480
today i don't know if he's did you see

700
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,039
that

701
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,039
with the press secretary the pentagon

702
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,120
press secretary he asked him

703
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,679
does the pentagon have a craft or crafts

704
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,039
he said crafts

705
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,360
and bodies and he didn't answer the

706
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,880
question he doesn't answer any of those

707
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,640
he doesn't answer any uap questions he

708
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:30,080
just says i don't want to get ahead of

709
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:31,520
the head of the report that hasn't been

710
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:32,320
issued yet

711
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:33,760
when the report comes out you know then

712
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,600
i can talk about it but

713
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,360
it was nice to see the question because

714
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:39,120
it's a hard question to ask he even said

715
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:39,679
he goes

716
00:26:44,890 --> 00:26:43,039
this except to just come out and say it

717
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,900
but do you have alien bodies and craft

718
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,559
[Laughter]

719
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:49,279
right is that the same guy that had the

720
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,000
no answer

721
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:53,039
on the uh the report we see the guy that

722
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,240
said what report what are you talking

723
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,080
about was that the same guy

724
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,039
i think so yeah yeah yeah okay okay i

725
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,320
think so it could be but then there was

726
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:02,000
bill nelson who was a former senator

727
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,480
from

728
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,640
florida who's asked in a group setting

729
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,000
that might have been

730
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,840
when they asked him to comment he said

731
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,520
you want me to comment on it like yeah

732
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,240
you're the head of nasa

733
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:14,240
and he was asked in another interview if

734
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,600
he was going to work with the pentagon

735
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:17,120
he's like right now we're not but if we

736
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:18,480
get something we'll let the pentagon

737
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,200
know and

738
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:22,000
he said he was briefed in 2018 and he

739
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,440
talked to some of the fighter pilots

740
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,039
he's like some people think it's like

741
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,880
some visual aberration he goes i don't

742
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,559
think that's the case these pilots are

743
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,000
you know they believe that they saw

744
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:31,679
something real but he wouldn't go much

745
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,399
further than

746
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,919
head of he's been the head of nasa for a

747
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,360
month i think

748
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:39,360
yeah i saw an article actually i think

749
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,399
it hit today

750
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,159
where they said that uh nasa is now

751
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,080
going to also start investigating for

752
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,760
extraterrestrial life

753
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:48,240
so we'll see where that ends up if

754
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:49,360
anywhere but he said

755
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,480
he was actually the guy being

756
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,240
interviewed i think was on cnn last

757
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,159
night or something to that effect

758
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,320
but uh everybody's in on the game

759
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:57,840
china's in on the game i'm sure you saw

760
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,480
that right

761
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:00,960
the debrief.org posted that china's got

762
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,840
a task force as well a ufo task force

763
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,360
i don't know if i don't think i saw that

764
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,960
story see you're ahead of me

765
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,799
it just hit like 30 minutes ago like i

766
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,320
was just doing a new show and it

767
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:12,159
i was like wow this is handy this i was

768
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,520
just starting it just hit

769
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,279
but uh tim mcmillan just put it up not

770
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,440
too long ago so so it's yeah

771
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:19,039
it's back to the foo fighters when they

772
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:20,559
thought it was us and we thought it was

773
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,520
them

774
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,039
i'm sure that's the same situation right

775
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,960
now and i'm sure some of it is

776
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,360
you know some of it is adversarial but

777
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,039
all of it what do you think

778
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:32,159
no no hell no and i'm talking about

779
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,440
east coast west coast since 2019 2015

780
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:37,520
i'm not talking about everything but

781
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:38,799
what do you think about the

782
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:41,520
2015 incidents like the go fest and the

783
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,240
gimbal

784
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:45,360
and the 2019 west coast events

785
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,039
uh okay so i think it's uh

786
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,240
suspicious relatively that uh they they

787
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,320
selected the videos they did

788
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,760
uh because if you go back to project

789
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:57,520
blue book uh there were saucers there

790
00:29:03,510 --> 00:28:58,320
were

791
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,520
compelling reports

792
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:05,840
like up to a thousand of them even of

793
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:07,760
all kinds of different shapes and sizes

794
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:10,480
and so oddly enough it seems suspicious

795
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,039
to me

796
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,720
that the same ones we get the

797
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:14,480
tic-tac-toe gimbal the all

798
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:17,840
the stuff is is uh the exact same thing

799
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,880
so i don't know like so beca because of

800
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:22,720
that i'm suspicious that it might be

801
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,279
ours

802
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:25,200
i'm suspicious that this is a big cat

803
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,559
and mouse game of

804
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,200
well those might be ours but i'm saying

805
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,799
the rest of them probably aren't right

806
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,039
as like two different things and so they

807
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,720
want to kind of deflect

808
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,480
all those other things they can't really

809
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,159
quantify the real ones

810
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,240
by saying we know what these are so

811
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:42,000
let's deal in this game you know what

812
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,480
i'm saying

813
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,640
kind of in this realm so we can answer

814
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:45,520
the questions

815
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,480
really have any real answers you know

816
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:52,720
yeah that's what it seems like to me and

817
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,880
it's it's really not dangerous but i

818
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,320
know when you bring up

819
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,399
and by the way everybody's listening i'm

820
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,159
sh i'm sending out the link again if you

821
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,840
want to join the show because like

822
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,240
i need you guys to call in with your

823
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,520
questions and comments

824
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:08,000
uh yeah if i bring up some of if i bring

825
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:09,279
up the fact that i think that some of

826
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,720
this tech is ours

827
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,640
i usually get a really a negative

828
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:14,240
response from certain people and i'm

829
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:14,799
like

830
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,640
i'm not saying

831
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:20,640
everything is ours i said some of it

832
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,080
might be ours

833
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,919
you know and i and i and i point to will

834
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,000
miller who had a lot of access to

835
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,679
he was like five or six special access

836
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,440
programs he was read into

837
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,679
um he thinks we have craft i can go

838
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:33,919
anywhere anytime in the universe

839
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,600
so you know no evidence of that but

840
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,679
he's a top guy who leslie keane called a

841
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,840
true insider in her book so i definitely

842
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,279
listen to what he has to say and i take

843
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:45,919
it seriously yeah and didn't didn't was

844
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,159
it

845
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,600
john lear that said we have the

846
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:49,520
technology to take e.t home or something

847
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:50,000
like that

848
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:52,000
and ben rich supposedly said something

849
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:53,520
if you look into that

850
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,320
it's questionable um but we do have

851
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:57,840
somebody else and michael you could stay

852
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,480
if you want

853
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,480
it's up to you uh go ahead go ahead and

854
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,840
take him i just want to call and say hi

855
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:03,279
make sure you got your alien oreos

856
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,880
good job bro we'll talk to you soon

857
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:06,000
michael it was great thank you for

858
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:06,880
calling in

859
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:14,710
kind of caught me off guard there i

860
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,600
really i wasn't expecting to uh

861
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,919
be included to this hey i apologize for

862
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,360
not having a camera i wasn't actually

863
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,799
expecting to come so you just have to

864
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,480
hit hoyo now if you'd like to chat for a

865
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,679
little bit

866
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,279
yeah yeah what do you think about going

867
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:29,600
where are you calling from by the way

868
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,840
uh i'm in new york actually i'm in i'm

869
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,519
in uh i'm in new york

870
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:36,480
uh you know just uh just so amazed at

871
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,440
all this news i

872
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,679
you know just i i've literally been at

873
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,200
work all day

874
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:43,200
you know having like serious discussions

875
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,720
with uh people that i wouldn't even

876
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:47,200
expect to be intrigued at this stuff you

877
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:48,320
know talking about

878
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:51,039
uh you know interdimensional hypotheses

879
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,640
and everything else i mean just

880
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:53,679
absolutely

881
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,720
uh just just incredible you know um and

882
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,159
then the drive home and see

883
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:01,039
uh you know the head of nasa um actually

884
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:02,000
acknowledge uh

885
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:05,440
the chief of nasa uh bill bill nelson

886
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,640
acknowledge uh the fact that you know he

887
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,399
was previously briefed on this stuff

888
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,720
he's bringing scientists into this

889
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,799
i it literally feels like like i'm just

890
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,720
in the twilight zone right now you know

891
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,880
it just this information is just so

892
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:21,120
overwhelming uh i don't know you've been

893
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,559
doing this broadcast i don't know if you

894
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,840
saw like uh

895
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,000
uh lou elizondo was just on fox news

896
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,760
right now with tucker carlson

897
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,399
he's uh showing fight oh it was great he

898
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,240
was just showing foia documents

899
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:33,760
you know acknowledging that this

900
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,360
phenomenon had been

901
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,919
as a matter of public record at least

902
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,360
from the government standpoint for at

903
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,039
least 70 years

904
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:43,360
showing that so you know just killing

905
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,240
the argument

906
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:46,960
that we we all know this i mean again i

907
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,120
mean we're we're slowly trying to

908
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,600
educate the the public about you know

909
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,960
this phenomena but

910
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:54,799
you know just just ruling out the

911
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,720
argument of russia you know showing that

912
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,600
when when uh

913
00:33:00,950 --> 00:33:00,080
you know the soviet uh union fell in the

914
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:00,960
night in the

915
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:04,000
the late 90s sorry early 90s

916
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,200
you know that they were disclosing

917
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,440
information about how they were having

918
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:10,399
incursions the same as us uh lou

919
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:11,200
acknowledged the

920
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:12,880
the connection between nuclear

921
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,760
facilities and ufos

922
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,480
um you know china again it's laughable

923
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:20,320
they they have one tenth of the budget

924
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,600
that we have

925
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,000
um they steal a lot of our technology so

926
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:25,440
somehow they've come up with technology

927
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:25,840
that's

928
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,399
thousands of years more advanced than us

929
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,399
i mean you know it's just it's it's it's

930
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,600
comical

931
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:34,080
you know and uh i'm just you know again

932
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:35,760
i'm i'm excited

933
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:38,240
at the point of disclosure um you know

934
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,440
just just you know full

935
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,679
full disclosure myself you know like i i

936
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:43,919
have you know political experience so i

937
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,240
understand the process itself

938
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,640
um and that's why you know i i've said

939
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:49,840
this yesterday

940
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:52,320
uh during the chat i agree with uh the

941
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:53,200
approach of

942
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,640
you you have to have a proper form a

943
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,480
proper format to disclose this

944
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,000
information publicly

945
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,480
so i i once again say that i appreciate

946
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,480
how they went through this process

947
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,280
to get this declassified information out

948
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:11,280
um that way the the government has no

949
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:11,760
choice

950
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,560
but to confirm it and that way you can

951
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,000
back them into a corner

952
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:17,760
you know so at this point now when you

953
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:20,159
have the press conferences with uh the

954
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:20,879
pentagon

955
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,839
what are they going to say you know um

956
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,960
and and what i always

957
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,879
go back to is even though the questions

958
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,159
are being brought up

959
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,839
um what i'm going to be really happy

960
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:31,679
with is when the reporters bring up the

961
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:32,879
question without a laugh

962
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,679
i mean this is just no joking matter um

963
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:37,520
you know watching old interviews

964
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,560
with uh i'm sorry mcdonald uh the the

965
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:42,320
old ufo investigator

966
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,760
you know this is a guy who was a

967
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:46,000
credible researcher who was driven a

968
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:47,119
suicide

969
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,879
for reporting something that we're all

970
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:50,720
talking about right now

971
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,440
think about that you know think about

972
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,040
the thousands of people whose lives are

973
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,639
destroyed because of this because

974
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:58,000
they're just reporting the truth and

975
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,359
doing their jobs

976
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,119
so you know to me i don't consider that

977
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,560
a laughing matter

978
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,320
i don't you know and i think this is

979
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:05,520
something that needs to be taken

980
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,880
seriously so

981
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,640
you know i really do take offense with

982
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,320
the the neil degrasse tysons and all

983
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:12,079
these people that try to discredit

984
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:13,520
what's actually happening they don't

985
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:16,480
have an opinion on it do they other than

986
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,320
just laughing

987
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,680
it's all mocking and i didn't know that

988
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:24,000
mcdonald had committed suicide

989
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:27,520
um but there is another person suicide

990
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,430
yeah just really quick he committed

991
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,359
suicide he was brought up

992
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,760
um to uh it was like a congressional

993
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:39,440
hearing on something else i don't

994
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,560
remember the back story but

995
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,839
i would have you know encouraged people

996
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:43,520
to look that up it was james mcdonald i

997
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,400
believe his first name

998
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,680
was mcdonald he uh was uh

999
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:50,160
james mcdonald yeah and he was he was

1000
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,880
going to

1001
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,720
like some type of congressional hearing

1002
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,640
and one of the uh the senators of

1003
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,760
congress people

1004
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,680
they try to discredit what he was

1005
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:59,359
talking about they were like how can we

1006
00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,160
take the

1007
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,839
the the testimony of someone who

1008
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:03,599
believes in ufos your

1009
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,520
your uh you know testimony is is is not

1010
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,640
uh you know uh you know just uh

1011
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,240
excellent or you know i'm sorry for look

1012
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,680
for you know better choice of words like

1013
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,200
it wasn't fallible

1014
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,160
and he was humiliated by that by this

1015
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:19,760
his job was destroyed

1016
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,160
his wife left him he ended up committing

1017
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,240
suicide by shooting himself in the head

1018
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,480
this is a credible researcher this is

1019
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:28,079
you know and again this is just one

1020
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,960
example

1021
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,640
you know the story that that stanton

1022
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,400
friedman talks about with the

1023
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:34,160
with the japanese pilot from the

1024
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,440
incident in the 80s

1025
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,119
you know where this person saw an

1026
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,560
incident reported it

1027
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,320
it was logged and they were going to

1028
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,480
remove him from pilot duty

1029
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,160
you know these things need to be made

1030
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,480
whole you know the reality is that those

1031
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,320
people are who i think about so you know

1032
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,680
when i get passionate about i think

1033
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,880
about those people

1034
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:52,400
that that you know we're just doing

1035
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,800
their jobs their lives are destroyed and

1036
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:56,400
they need to be made whole and i think

1037
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:57,920
at this moment

1038
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:00,400
no laughing no laughing unless you can

1039
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,839
come up with a more comfortable answer

1040
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:03,040
as to what's happening

1041
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,960
and not some [\h__\h] that mick west is

1042
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,480
talking about about some

1043
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,040
balloons right yeah some some you know

1044
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:11,359
uh balloons that move hypersonically and

1045
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:11,760
can

1046
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,200
underwater in the sea right

1047
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:18,079
come on people really yeah we're

1048
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,880
hamstrung

1049
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,880
with we don't not we do not have those

1050
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:22,079
videos so i said

1051
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,839
until we get those videos of seeing

1052
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:25,200
90-degree returns

1053
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:26,960
mick west people like mick west are

1054
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:28,240
going to be able to say whatever they

1055
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:28,880
want and

1056
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:31,359
it's like i've i've stopped interacting

1057
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,000
with him and

1058
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,839
i'm not saying he doesn't do any good

1059
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,359
work but it's like

1060
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:37,280
everything is explainable to him and

1061
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,560
it's not i'm sorry

1062
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:41,119
for the last 90 years and it's 90 now

1063
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,320
it's like you go back

1064
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:44,480
1930s retrieval in the 30s with

1065
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,599
mussolini

1066
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,520
and one of the things i talked about was

1067
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,000
kit green kit green told me that

1068
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,839
his parents had a sighting in the early

1069
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,440
30s of a craft coming out of

1070
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:55,280
coming out of a lake with other

1071
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,280
witnesses so yeah it's like

1072
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:59,040
that's that's not russia folks it's not

1073
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:00,480
china so

1074
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,160
um the laughing is just it's it's it's

1075
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,760
still there a little as far as laughing

1076
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,280
it's getting better but yeah there's

1077
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,720
another guy

1078
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,400
the guy who was the defense intelligence

1079
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,480
agency the head of the dia before

1080
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,440
admiral wilson i forget his name um but

1081
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,280
his father committed suicide and

1082
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,119
supposedly there's a connection there's

1083
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:21,359
a connection to the phenomenon um

1084
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:22,960
but yeah and as lou said it's going to

1085
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,359
be a major can of worms because a lot of

1086
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:26,400
people are going to be able to

1087
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,760
a lot of people are going to want to sue

1088
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:30,000
the government for a lot of what has

1089
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:30,720
happened like

1090
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,320
cases you're talking about family

1091
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:34,400
members um so i don't really know how

1092
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,430
that's what i wanted to talk to you

1093
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,599
about joe you know the reality is

1094
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:43,839
is uh there's two things that i'm

1095
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,720
conflicted with

1096
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,640
one is you know for all those people

1097
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,160
that were discredited

1098
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,920
how do you have disclosure and the

1099
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:51,520
government open up

1100
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,680
you know which we would hope which is

1101
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,000
just difficult unto itself and then

1102
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,480
you know deal with the the challenge of

1103
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:00,000
all those people that were discredited

1104
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:03,200
in the past because if

1105
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,640
i'm a pilot and you know i lost my

1106
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,640
license or my job and i'm homeless and

1107
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,839
then all of a sudden i'm watching this

1108
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,720
news

1109
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,880
i want to sue the government like i want

1110
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,640
i want to be paid back for what you did

1111
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,480
to my life it's no different

1112
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,960
than someone who spent 20 years in jail

1113
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,640
for a crime they didn't do

1114
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,520
and then dna evidence proves that they

1115
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,359
did not commit that crime what usually

1116
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,079
happens they go to a court of law they

1117
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,079
file a lawsuit and they're made whole to

1118
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,599
a certain extent

1119
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:32,079
the others the other part to it you know

1120
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:32,800
is

1121
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,119
how are you going to get a true

1122
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:37,359
scientific assessment

1123
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,800
when most of the incursions occur near

1124
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,680
sensitive military facilities where they

1125
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,119
have to protect the

1126
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,920
sources and means of their intelligence

1127
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:49,760
i asked this question one time on

1128
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,320
twitter

1129
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,880
or somewhere online and i just said you

1130
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,800
know is it possible for

1131
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,800
you know us to get access you know it's

1132
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,160
like a civilian i don't know whether

1133
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,839
it's an organization or something

1134
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,480
to get access to you know uh certain

1135
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,760
types of radar or

1136
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,400
sonar or those type of things because

1137
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:08,079
the reality is it's like it seems like

1138
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,520
that's the best way to detect these

1139
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,960
things infrared

1140
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,040
um is a good way so yes you can have

1141
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:15,040
night vision goggles but you need it on

1142
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:15,680
in a more

1143
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:19,040
commercial uh setting you know such that

1144
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,520
that

1145
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,920
you know only governments hold at this

1146
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,359
point so how can we

1147
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,359
get that information out to the right

1148
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,119
people when the people that are

1149
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,880
collecting that information collected in

1150
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,839
a classified

1151
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,920
setting you know that to me is the most

1152
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:33,119
frustrating aspect

1153
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,960
of it you know and that's where i'm at

1154
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,640
right now how do you

1155
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,880
bring in the scientific community in the

1156
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,760
right way

1157
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:42,319
and as a side note so much credit to avi

1158
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,960
loeb

1159
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,480
for just jumping at the forefront of

1160
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,000
this you know i i

1161
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,200
really wish nasa you know would you know

1162
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,680
uh consider having someone like that in

1163
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,480
the fold

1164
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:55,040
who has an open mind but again you know

1165
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,599
that's my

1166
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,280
my biggest frustration at this point how

1167
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,359
do you get past that point

1168
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,760
you know it just it's that's where we

1169
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,800
need to get to

1170
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,720
we need to understand you know the

1171
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,400
mechanics of these things

1172
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:09,520
um the movements uh the materials

1173
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,480
jacques valet

1174
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,960
he uh i read he's gonna be publishing a

1175
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,079
peer review

1176
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,160
uh article on some of the material he's

1177
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,520
analyzed hopefully

1178
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,280
um this summer i'm looking forward to

1179
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,599
that as well you know like those are the

1180
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,359
kind of thing this is where i'm at

1181
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:26,079
in this process you know like seeing

1182
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:26,480
that

1183
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,839
true verifiable peer-reviewed research

1184
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:31,359
coming to the forefront

1185
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,960
we can spend all our time talking about

1186
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,560
historical stuff i

1187
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,480
i read your blog as a matter of fact i

1188
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,000
just right before i came on here i was

1189
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:39,760
reading like an old blog that

1190
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,040
you had with uh eric davis you know uh

1191
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:46,000
talking about bob lazar um we we can

1192
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:47,359
talk about all that we know where that's

1193
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,000
at the point

1194
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,480
where we want to be at now is when when

1195
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,000
you're getting reports coming

1196
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,560
okay we've analyzed the tic tac it has

1197
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,400
these particular flight characteristics

1198
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,960
versus the saucer versus the triangle

1199
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,480
you know that's that's what i need to

1200
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,079
see next

1201
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,960
these debates on tv i love it but you're

1202
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:06,880
acknowledging stuff that we all know to

1203
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:07,760
be real

1204
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,079
right no i agree i agree right now it's

1205
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,920
and and i do feel for some of these

1206
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,599
people because they've

1207
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,720
they've made fun of us for so long and

1208
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:20,240
they they're forced to acknowledge it

1209
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,680
right now because their their news

1210
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,359
organizations are like we need to cover

1211
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,200
this this is big news this is

1212
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,960
this is going to get us viewers i'm not

1213
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,880
necessarily sure every one of those

1214
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:29,920
reporters has

1215
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:32,160
totally had has totally bought into this

1216
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:32,960
subject

1217
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,359
but like i said with my family i don't

1218
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:37,119
have any feedback whatsoever they're

1219
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:37,680
totally

1220
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,400
ignoring it um so i think it's gonna

1221
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,400
take a while for them to start

1222
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,079
taking it to the next level but yeah we

1223
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,160
need scientists to talk you know we need

1224
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,880
we don't need a program if if we really

1225
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,440
have

1226
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,520
struggled to back engineer this

1227
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:52,640
technology like

1228
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,160
eric davis says if we really have

1229
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:55,760
struggled and failed

1230
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,240
then we need to open it up to as many

1231
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,319
scientists as we can not just some small

1232
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,760
group because that's the problem with

1233
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,200
those programs you know they have a

1234
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,480
limited amount of people that are

1235
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,560
working on it and when they get stuck

1236
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,920
there's no one to turn to because

1237
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,440
they're not right into that program and

1238
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:11,440
that was the argument for bob lazar if

1239
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:12,480
people

1240
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,839
did you would think that

1241
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:18,000
they were so you know they were so they

1242
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:19,680
came up against a brick wall and they're

1243
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,160
like

1244
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,800
well this guy's really not a physicist

1245
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,640
with a degree but he thinks outside of

1246
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,400
the box let's give it a shot

1247
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,640
that's my bob lazar is telling the truth

1248
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,319
side and then i have the other side

1249
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,319
so but yeah you know that's that's

1250
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:34,000
that's that's a definite level we need

1251
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,720
to get to in

1252
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,880
as far as discussion and scientists i

1253
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,319
want to i just want to hear them

1254
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,960
i would love for them to talk about it's

1255
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,280
not russia it's not adversarial

1256
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,920
it's not our tech could it be something

1257
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,520
that because they always the fallback

1258
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,040
right now is always

1259
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,960
could it be extraterrestrial and there

1260
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,640
are other options you know

1261
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:55,040
something that was on this yeah

1262
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:56,400
interdimensional or something that was

1263
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,200
just here

1264
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,880
and it's still here we just can't see it

1265
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,560
because you know our eyesight

1266
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,079
wavelength on the electromagnetic

1267
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,599
spectrum we can't see it we're very

1268
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:04,560
limited

1269
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,319
but that it's the news cycle

1270
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,640
joe um i'm gonna go on another another

1271
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,319
method you know ufo twitter

1272
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,240
i mean it's just been what what an

1273
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,640
unreal you know experience this has been

1274
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:18,560
to see all these people united in this

1275
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:19,359
way

1276
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,400
um you know and and you've seen uh

1277
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,240
testimony from you know amanda dietrich

1278
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,839
talking about it saying

1279
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,760
you know that that we are a force i mean

1280
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:29,440
she was on cnn acknowledging you know

1281
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:30,160
what we've done

1282
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,599
you know such a fascinating group and

1283
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,599
i'm really fascinated by everybody

1284
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,760
um just so you know you know my

1285
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,440
experience you know i've been able to

1286
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,000
change laws like i've done lobbying

1287
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,440
i've seen what that experience is

1288
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:45,359
and and the reality is is that you know

1289
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,720
we have the power to make a lot of

1290
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,520
change

1291
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:50,800
you know um i spring this up yesterday

1292
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,440
um any news segment that's brought up

1293
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:55,280
with ufos or anything of that nature

1294
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,319
uaps

1295
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,599
it gets the readings they're going to

1296
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:59,119
keep talking about it because it brings

1297
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,400
a lot of attention

1298
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,400
the fact is is that after donald donald

1299
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,000
trump left office there was a huge

1300
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:06,079
void in the news cycle this is the one

1301
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,720
topic that is completely uh bipartisan

1302
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:10,000
is one topic

1303
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,359
if you look at everything we're dealing

1304
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:13,520
with as a society there's no other topic

1305
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,839
that

1306
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,839
you get the attention of everybody

1307
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,480
politicians recognize that um

1308
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:20,400
the next step really for us and and

1309
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:21,680
again i don't know if you can do this as

1310
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:22,960
a loose coalition

1311
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,440
is to really put that pressure on and

1312
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,560
what i mean by that

1313
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:29,280
is through lobbying because you know joe

1314
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:30,640
here's the thing your family they don't

1315
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,680
talk about it

1316
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,960
you don't need to what you need is a

1317
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:35,040
dedicated core group like i'm involved

1318
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:35,520
in

1319
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:41,520
there's a core group of people like

1320
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:42,880
environmentalists

1321
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,520
um that they're just loud and they will

1322
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:47,359
go up to albany and they will pressure

1323
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,000
people

1324
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,920
they will get billions of dollars in

1325
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,280
funding because

1326
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,520
they are relentless in that and that's

1327
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:55,359
what we need like you need like someone

1328
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,800
like lou when you have people like that

1329
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,560
at the forefront that don't let up

1330
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,480
you you realize from a political

1331
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,480
standpoint that you can't stop

1332
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,319
so then what happens is that senators

1333
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,760
start to talk about it and congress

1334
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,119
people start to talk about it

1335
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,880
and more pressure comes from that core

1336
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:10,319
group and and

1337
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:12,079
my wish you know really just kind of

1338
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:13,359
finish this thought is just

1339
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,400
if we can kind of hone in on that type

1340
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,839
of power that we have

1341
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,520
and put the type of pressure on

1342
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,520
officials that james

1343
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,079
spoke about chris mellon spoke about

1344
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,520
that's when you get true

1345
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,359
change because that's when you hold

1346
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,040
people to accountable

1347
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,720
and you start to get the real type of

1348
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,400
disclosure that you're talking about

1349
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,319
because you need to have an avenue so

1350
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,240
that military officials that know that

1351
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:37,680
can get on record

1352
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,240
and have sworn testimony and talk about

1353
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,560
this i want to see daniel sheehan

1354
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:45,520
get to a congressional hearing and admit

1355
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:46,560
you know through uh

1356
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:49,680
one testimony that he saw uh uh

1357
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,200
big pictures of uh alien spacecraft that

1358
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:55,280
that he spoke of at the congressional

1359
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,319
research office

1360
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,480
i want to see um you know all these

1361
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:00,000
different pilots throughout the years

1362
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,920
come on record because at this point in

1363
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,720
time

1364
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,160
it's going to make a whole lot of

1365
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,079
difference so that's you know again

1366
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,760
that's where we need to get right now

1367
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,359
and that's that's what my goal is and if

1368
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:10,480
we ever get that we

1369
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:11,760
you know i definitely want to be those

1370
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,640
people one of those people at the

1371
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,640
forefront i've changed laws

1372
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:16,800
so i know what the pressure does and

1373
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,870
yeah thank you for jumping on that

1374
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:24,480
joining us just one thing i want to say

1375
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,200
that

1376
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,760
there's absolutely no reason sources and

1377
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,200
methods that we cannot see

1378
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:31,280
photos of an alleged e.t craft that

1379
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,480
daniel sheehan saw

1380
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,000
there's no reason why that can't be

1381
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,720
declassified

1382
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,119
yeah excuses always well it's going to

1383
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:41,599
give away sorts of methods go ahead lee

1384
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,359
yeah the the the interesting thing is

1385
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:45,440
that it almost seems like the resolution

1386
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,480
of the images

1387
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,760
is being used as a as a threshold for

1388
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,440
classification right

1389
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,520
like if it was really clear it's gonna

1390
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:55,440
get classified same camera takes a

1391
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,559
picture

1392
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,160
you know it's a little blurry then it's

1393
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,760
declassified it seems completely

1394
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,280
arbitrary but i think

1395
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,800
the the other caller made a good point

1396
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,640
about the

1397
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,800
political pressure and and that pack i

1398
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,839
think we

1399
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,280
the political action committee we're not

1400
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,640
really talking a lot about but i think

1401
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:12,559
that could potentially be a

1402
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,480
a very big uh influencer

1403
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,559
right and also i wanted to make a quick

1404
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,559
comment about

1405
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,040
you know criminal investigations when

1406
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,640
you ask somebody

1407
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:27,359
a question as as a law enforcement

1408
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:28,160
officer

1409
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:29,440
generally you don't want to ask people

1410
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,640
questions that you don't already have

1411
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:31,920
the answer to

1412
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:34,960
and to me this feels a lot like

1413
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,280
you know the request from congress to

1414
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,880
get information on this feels like they

1415
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,319
already know the answer they already

1416
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,559
have a bunch of classified information

1417
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,319
and they're waiting to see what the dod

1418
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,680
says right

1419
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,520
and if you look at louis elizondo and

1420
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:48,880
his

1421
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:52,400
if

1422
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,920
nothing to see here and then louis

1423
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,839
elizondo discloses classified

1424
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,680
information that contradicts that what

1425
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,119
they just said right

1426
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:05,119
what how does that shake out right i

1427
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,160
mean the

1428
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:08,000
dod saying there's nothing there he

1429
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,359
releases classified

1430
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,920
information that contradicts them how

1431
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:13,359
does that play out i mean maybe that's

1432
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:13,839
that's

1433
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:16,319
you know part of the game here um it's

1434
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:17,760
it's an interesting

1435
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,240
breaking so fast

1436
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:25,200
i don't think lulu would do that but you

1437
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:25,920
know

1438
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:28,160
i've said it before daniel sheehan said

1439
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:29,440
that

1440
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:32,880
dr eric davis briefed rubio and told him

1441
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,160
and said the uap task force

1442
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:39,359
and the o and i thinks that this group

1443
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:39,839
of

1444
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,480
objects that are in the you know in our

1445
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,000
what do they call what did susan goff

1446
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,400
call them examinations what they're

1447
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:48,079
being shown they're considered uap

1448
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,200
they're not considered

1449
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,800
they have ruled out china and russia and

1450
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,720
they've ruled out our technology

1451
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,559
so and i believe that to be true that

1452
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,160
happened so

1453
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,000
they know and that's why rubio has been

1454
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,599
talking about it so much so

1455
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,200
how are they going to react are the

1456
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,280
senators you know rubio can really and

1457
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:05,040
i'm not a rubio fan but people need to

1458
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:07,119
get over the politics if rubio steps up

1459
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,640
and says listen

1460
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:11,119
this report does not go far enough it

1461
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,400
does not go far enough

1462
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,079
he's gonna be like a champion in a lot

1463
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:15,920
of people's eyes especially if we get

1464
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:22,069
what do you guys think i completely

1465
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,440
agree and that's why

1466
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:26,079
senator warner senator warner's backing

1467
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,200
them up too

1468
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:29,280
every single senator that's been part of

1469
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,319
this intelligence

1470
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,880
committee um they're saying the same

1471
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:34,640
thing and i think they're aware of it

1472
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,359
here's the thing the report it's not

1473
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:39,359
going to discount anything that happens

1474
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,319
i'm not sure what's going to happen with

1475
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,720
regards to the crash retrieval

1476
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,800
um one if i'm going to play devil's

1477
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,240
advocate um

1478
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,000
you know as far as the crash retrieval

1479
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,920
unless you've done

1480
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,240
isotopic analysis and you can see that

1481
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,319
the isotopes of the different materials

1482
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,839
are different ratios

1483
00:51:01,109 --> 00:51:00,160
then it's hard to definitively prove one

1484
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,119
way or another

1485
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,040
i mean right isn't that isn't that what

1486
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:04,800
jacques valet is trying to do

1487
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,000
um you can say we have material

1488
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,920
but unless they're gonna flat out admit

1489
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:11,040
that you know there's a

1490
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,920
ufo spacecraft that's in a hangar and s4

1491
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:18,319
um you can always discount that to a

1492
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,280
certain extent

1493
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,720
um yes eric davis spoke about it um that

1494
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,920
did come up with the classified

1495
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:25,760
briefings he brought it up

1496
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,480
to what extent we don't know did he

1497
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:30,640
actually show pictures of the material

1498
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,800
did he go into details on the isotopic

1499
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,240
compositions

1500
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,200
i don't know i'm so intrigued by that

1501
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,480
and the other thing is why

1502
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,640
has eric davis going quiet during this

1503
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:42,319
time

1504
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,520
i know i know the answer to that

1505
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,640
yeah he's worried about his

1506
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,040
classification being pulled

1507
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,520
brian bender reported this it was last

1508
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,800
year that

1509
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,640
where eric davis works and i don't even

1510
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:56,000
want to mention the name i don't even

1511
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,440
want to get him in any trouble

1512
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,720
in mentioning his name but they don't

1513
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:00,240
want him to talk about it because after

1514
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,839
the new york times article came out

1515
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:03,760
they put the kibosh on any media

1516
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,200
interviews for him because

1517
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,960
if he was able to talk right now he

1518
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,640
would be on every newscast

1519
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:10,319
and he would be talking about the crash

1520
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:12,559
retrieval program and you make a great

1521
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:13,200
point

1522
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,839
materials are one thing that even if it

1523
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,359
turns out you know we can't figure out

1524
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,200
how to make this here's the report

1525
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,040
scientists will look at that but if we

1526
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,520
had an intact craft which i think we do

1527
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,839
that's a totally different story um but

1528
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:27,520
his voice

1529
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,800
wish he could talk but that's you know

1530
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,960
that's his job so he can't he can't go

1531
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,720
against their wishes right now

1532
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:36,720
so how does that shake out in terms of

1533
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:38,240
you know new york times is saying that

1534
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,720
this

1535
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:40,400
report is saying that there's no

1536
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:42,240
evidence of aliens i

1537
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:43,839
i think the first question they need to

1538
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,240
ask after this report is

1539
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:49,359
is how does the dod define that word

1540
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,800
right i mean are they are they playing

1541
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,440
games by saying you know

1542
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,680
by just just how they use language to

1543
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,119
say something like that or

1544
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:59,200
or do we really believe that the dod is

1545
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,160
going to come out and say

1546
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,319
we have no evidence of that even if they

1547
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,839
do

1548
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,280
yeah a lot of people have brought that

1549
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:07,440
up it's like what would constitute

1550
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,480
evidence of aliens or non-humans and for

1551
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:11,920
me

1552
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,680
have to see the craft and

1553
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,760
say we found these bodies and these

1554
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:19,359
bodies are not human i think that's the

1555
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,400
only thing that would

1556
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,400
settle at 100 because there's always

1557
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,920
gonna people it's always going to be

1558
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:24,880
people saying

1559
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,240
you know that video you know

1560
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,240
we can't tell if that's alien that video

1561
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,839
could be some natural phenomenon it's

1562
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:33,440
always it's always going to be that

1563
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,200
i mean yeah even if we you know

1564
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,200
obviously we need to see the 90 to 90

1565
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,720
degree turns and the instantaneous

1566
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,839
acceleration

1567
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,920
um and if it would be great if somebody

1568
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,520
like neil degrasse tyson saw that and

1569
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,880
said

1570
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:47,280
uh we don't you know other scientists we

1571
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,800
don't have that technology there's no

1572
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,640
way is that made on this planet

1573
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,640
that would be great but i think to next

1574
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:53,920
the next level and i don't know if we'll

1575
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,280
get it in my lifetime

1576
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:58,000
but seeing seeing a craft and bodies and

1577
00:54:03,030 --> 00:53:59,599
i do think we have that stuff

1578
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:03,040
and you know it's it's it's in the past

1579
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,240
if i've brought that up it's

1580
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,920
right away it's like there are people in

1581
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,520
the ufo community who think that's

1582
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,960
nonsense but

1583
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,400
now you saw it you know brought up today

1584
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,880
at a pentagon press conference so it's

1585
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:14,240
that's not proof of anything it's not

1586
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:15,680
evidence but it's we're moving in that

1587
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,480
direction and i'm excited about that

1588
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,319
it'll be interesting to see um his

1589
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:22,240
comment because he keeps saying

1590
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,520
you know i don't want to get ahead of

1591
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,359
the the report well

1592
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:27,119
what happens after the report what's he

1593
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,400
going to say right it's going to be

1594
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,880
interesting to watch

1595
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,480
yeah once the report comes out he's like

1596
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:34,880
okay the report is out we have an intact

1597
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,680
craft

1598
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,680
we have alien bodies i was just waiting

1599
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,280
for the report

1600
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,839
am i still am i low is my microphone low

1601
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:43,599
no you you sound you sound good

1602
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,440
every so often it sounds like it breaks

1603
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,440
in and out but it's great

1604
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:50,000
the the air force why has the air force

1605
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,720
been so

1606
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,960
uh conspicuously silent during this

1607
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:54,480
whole process

1608
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,520
the history of uh everything

1609
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:59,520
of our incursions uh has been centered

1610
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,799
around the air force

1611
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,119
right i mean we can go back to project

1612
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:05,200
blue book and everything therein

1613
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,720
um they are our national defense

1614
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,559
they are the ones that get scrambled if

1615
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,640
something pulls up to the white house

1616
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,559
they have been completely quiet during

1617
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,400
this whole process the only thing that

1618
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,720
this report is really going to focus on

1619
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:20,480
is the incursions that occurred by the

1620
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,079
navy and

1621
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:24,319
um to your point joe if we're going to

1622
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,799
be talking about retrieve materials or

1623
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,720
craft or anything else

1624
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,480
the air force would probably be directly

1625
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:32,559
involved it would be either the air

1626
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:33,119
force

1627
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:36,640
uh the doe or some private contractor

1628
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,839
right the navy um as with all government

1629
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:41,280
agencies they don't communicate with

1630
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:42,799
each other i mean i see that

1631
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:46,000
in my own specter um so the navy and air

1632
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:47,119
force and they're not they're not

1633
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,760
communicating

1634
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,520
they've taken their own initiative to

1635
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,839
report this because you know they're

1636
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,599
well ahead of the game in in public

1637
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,880
disclosure um

1638
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,319
but what do we do about the air force

1639
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,839
how do we get them to admit because you

1640
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:59,599
want to talk about crash retrievals

1641
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:01,359
then it has to come from the air force

1642
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:02,640
and i'll tell you this if there were

1643
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,119
crash

1644
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,599
materials in my opinion by the navy it

1645
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:07,359
most likely would have came out already

1646
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:08,559
because the navy seems to have no

1647
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,000
problem in releasing anything based on

1648
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,319
what we've seen

1649
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,359
yeah yeah the air force you know i've

1650
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,880
heard various people like

1651
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,440
eric davis and al pudov have hinted well

1652
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:21,119
eric davis basically said they were

1653
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:22,480
there were some witnesses who were

1654
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:24,079
working with them talking about some of

1655
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:24,640
their

1656
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,839
encounters but as a whole they must feel

1657
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,960
that they're going to get

1658
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,280
slammed when it all comes out how much

1659
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:32,720
they how much they you know how much

1660
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,599
they covered up

1661
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,839
how much they hid and you know i think

1662
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,160
everything they're so reticent

1663
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,319
joe every historical story that you hear

1664
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:42,559
from from holloman air force base

1665
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,319
to you know the history with plot

1666
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:46,319
project blue for uh blue book

1667
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,440
the classified files that dan

1668
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,960
sheen saw to me it all comes back to the

1669
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,799
air force i mean it really does and

1670
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,559
they're the one agency that doesn't

1671
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,400
speak about anything but they don't like

1672
00:57:02,870 --> 00:56:59,920
how is that possible so

1673
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,880
only only fighter jets on on um navy

1674
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,799
warships see this stuff

1675
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:06,079
you know that's that's the narrative

1676
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:07,359
that they're trying to push out through

1677
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,799
their silence so the whole time i'm

1678
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:09,599
watching this

1679
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,040
i'm just curious when are we gonna hear

1680
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,720
something from the air force why nobody

1681
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,160
talking about the air force

1682
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,920
every document that gets published

1683
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,079
through foyer requests that's historical

1684
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,160
it's all air force stuff they're the

1685
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:22,000
ones that in every story from all the

1686
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,720
social stuff

1687
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:24,079
and again people say whatever you want

1688
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:25,760
to say about steven greer but when he

1689
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,160
had

1690
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:28,400
those military officials come out more

1691
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,440
often than not

1692
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,040
anytime that they saw something it was

1693
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:33,359
connected to the air force was it not

1694
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,559
yes well nasa nasa is coming out now so

1695
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,079
perhaps the air force is

1696
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:39,839
going to go down a similar path okay so

1697
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,680
let's let's talk about nasa let's talk

1698
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,440
about edgar mitchell mitchell

1699
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:46,000
and all these other um uh astronauts

1700
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:47,280
that were connected to the air force

1701
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,000
were they not

1702
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,160
air force pilots prior to that were they

1703
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,839
not talking about incursions that came

1704
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,000
during their period in the air force

1705
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,559
it just it's again it's like this this

1706
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:57,920
missing piece that

1707
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:01,200
i would love to see someone on a

1708
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,960
national stage bring up

1709
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:05,680
i would love to see a uh uh you know

1710
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,319
some some

1711
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:09,119
person whether it's it's tucker carlson

1712
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:09,599
or

1713
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,760
hear from them

1714
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,200
why are they acting like nothing's going

1715
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,880
on they did this study

1716
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:18,720
how many decades ago why are they not

1717
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,870
is obvious what's happening right now i

1718
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,720
feel like the mainstream journalists are

1719
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:31,200
all doing a ton of research right now

1720
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:33,040
and getting through joe's blog will take

1721
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:34,720
you a couple weeks

1722
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,400
um so you know i feel like

1723
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,119
how do you do this the right questions

1724
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,880
right and i feel like

1725
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,160
those are the kinds of questions that

1726
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,000
we're gonna start to see

1727
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:48,400
um presented here soon i don't know i i

1728
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:50,079
feel like they're all just trying to

1729
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,960
learn a ton of information really fast

1730
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,400
and you see them make mistakes because

1731
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,079
they're just kind of new to it but i

1732
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:01,990
oh i agree i mean yeah the air force

1733
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:02,400
question

1734
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,240
i really don't know i mean they need to

1735
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,160
we need to get documents we need you

1736
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,760
know we need we need evidence because

1737
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,040
they're not going to come out on their

1738
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,200
own and i don't know how we get that and

1739
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,440
you know yeah the navy has been great

1740
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:17,359
and chris mellon has gone out of his way

1741
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,000
to

1742
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:20,160
praise the navy he was it was an

1743
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,520
interview on

1744
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,359
coast to coast i think it was last year

1745
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,839
and it was it was so obvious he was just

1746
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,359
praising the navy and just saying

1747
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,359
they're so great they've been so great

1748
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:31,119
it's obviously it was a dig at the air

1749
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,079
force without saying

1750
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:35,119
it um but i don't know i don't know how

1751
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,960
we get them to talk about it i mean

1752
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,480
they need to be asked about it on the

1753
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,079
record by reporters maybe that that's

1754
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:42,000
the first step

1755
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:43,599
do you think we'll see public hearings

1756
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:47,200
after the report comes out

1757
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:53,750
i'm skeptical about that oh we lost

1758
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,190
you there yeah yeah sorry about that i

1759
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:02,559
got i got bumped out

1760
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:04,480
i'm sorry what did i think about public

1761
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,920
disclosure i didn't hear anything

1762
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:07,440
he was asking if he thought we were

1763
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:09,599
going to have you know

1764
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,480
congressional hearings and after the

1765
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,319
report comes out but

1766
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,640
i don't know if we do get if we do get

1767
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:18,000
hearings i don't think it'll be right

1768
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,280
away it'll take a little bit

1769
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:22,240
no no this this is this is where uh

1770
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:23,280
daniel sheehan

1771
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:26,240
um i i really am putting a lot of faith

1772
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,119
in him

1773
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,799
um i think that's that's what he's

1774
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:31,200
pushing for he recognizes the moment

1775
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:34,079
and and my god i mean have has anybody

1776
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:34,559
uh

1777
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,319
you know an audience i'm sure you're all

1778
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,000
aware what this guy did i mean i

1779
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:40,240
you know between the pentagon papers

1780
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:41,359
between you know

1781
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:43,280
uh everything he's done with jimmy

1782
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:44,559
carter between

1783
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:47,520
watergate i mean his his his pedigree is

1784
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:48,559
second to none

1785
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,280
the top of the top you know um

1786
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,119
constitutional lawyers that this

1787
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:55,920
country has ever seen and he is pushing

1788
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,920
for that he recognizes that that's the

1789
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:59,280
true path to it

1790
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,680
so i feel like this this process i mean

1791
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:03,520
we all recognize this as a process

1792
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,720
once the uh report comes out um i'm sure

1793
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,240
you're going to get more statements from

1794
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,480
marco rubio and senator warner

1795
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,880
um you also get results from the ig

1796
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:14,640
investigation let's not forget about

1797
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:15,280
that

1798
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:22,960
find discrepancies between what's

1799
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:23,599
disclosed

1800
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:26,799
the fact that they obfuscated um lou

1801
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:27,839
elizondo

1802
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,119
um in in his uh credibility

1803
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:33,359
uh deleting his emails i mean we can go

1804
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:34,319
into a whole

1805
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,270
in my opinion eventually reach a point

1806
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,359
that you know we may get to

1807
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:47,359
uh you know a congressional hearing i

1808
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:49,119
mean that may take a year though you

1809
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:49,440
know

1810
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:55,599
happening but you really gotta recognize

1811
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:56,000
that

1812
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:57,440
you know especially in government there

1813
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,440
is a process you know so

1814
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:01,119
um there's no time like the president

1815
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,720
everything is moving according the way

1816
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,839
it needs to

1817
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,520
i'm confident that there'll be more

1818
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,760
videos and photos released that'll kind

1819
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,520
of stir the fire up

1820
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,280
um you know what i would love to hear as

1821
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:13,599
well aside from a comment that we got

1822
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,480
from china

1823
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:16,640
i would love to hear pew putin chime in

1824
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,400
i would love to hear him say something

1825
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,400
and just laughably say that no we don't

1826
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:21,839
have this as a matter of fact we've been

1827
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:24,079
studying this as well

1828
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:27,440
um nations how about the united nations

1829
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:28,480
because you know again

1830
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,000
you see the organizations that are

1831
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,920
coming out like icer

1832
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:34,079
right uh you know that uh the was that

1833
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,920
the international coalition of

1834
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,359
extraterrestrial research totally can

1835
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:39,520
get there afternoon wrong but again

1836
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:41,839
they're pushing for something at a

1837
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,359
united nations level

1838
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,280
this is not gonna be what occurred with

1839
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:47,680
grenada many years ago where you know

1840
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:49,599
jay allen heights goes from u.n

1841
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,880
and he said stuff on behalf of grenada

1842
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:54,720
that's not going to be the case i think

1843
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,160
now you're going to have support from

1844
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:58,400
countries like france from brazil

1845
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:01,359
from chile from costa rica and hopefully

1846
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,000
you'll have

1847
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,400
united states representation in that you

1848
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:06,079
know like this is not a united states

1849
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:07,520
phenomena i mean this is a global

1850
01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:08,400
phenomenon

1851
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:10,319
i would love to see it um a

1852
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,839
congressional hearing but more

1853
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:13,200
importantly i would love to

1854
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:16,720
see this brought up at a general u.n

1855
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,760
assembly

1856
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:19,760
that's exactly what we need the

1857
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:21,520
acknowledgement that this is a global

1858
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:22,240
phenomenon

1859
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,760
that we need to take a global approach

1860
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,599
to this that we need to set up

1861
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,520
institutions so that we can publicly

1862
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:28,799
share this information

1863
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:31,440
because governments are not able to

1864
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,160
share

1865
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:33,839
their sources and means and that

1866
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,200
obviously the ability of

1867
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:38,000
scientists to give accurate assessments

1868
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:39,839
on what's going on

1869
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:42,079
that's that's where we need to get to

1870
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,079
you know i swear to god it just you know

1871
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:46,160
so daniel sheehan um just doubling back

1872
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,520
you know i have a lot of confidence i'm

1873
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:49,359
telling everyone keep your eye on this

1874
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,839
guy

1875
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:51,599
if you haven't watched enough interviews

1876
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:53,200
with him watch those

1877
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,319
joe you did a great blog on on on him

1878
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,720
and and you you uh i don't even know i

1879
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:00,799
need to get you a a better something for

1880
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:02,960
christmas dude because i don't know

1881
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:05,520
like you're you're you're 24 hours man

1882
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:07,119
but you did you did a great blog on that

1883
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,760
shop

1884
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:10,400
yeah i'm right with you on shein and

1885
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,000
that's why i did the blog i'm like

1886
01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:14,319
and i had forgotten about him going to

1887
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:16,160
see the project blue book files the

1888
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:17,599
classified files and

1889
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:20,160
oh yeah him risk taking such a big risk

1890
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:21,280
by writing those

1891
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:23,200
you know tracing down the symbols on his

1892
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:25,280
little yup his little yellow notepad

1893
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:28,079
yellow legal notepad um but yeah and i

1894
01:04:30,309 --> 01:04:28,400
know

1895
01:04:31,510 --> 01:04:30,319
people like i can't believe the guy

1896
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:31,520
who's representing dr

1897
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:33,680
steven greer is also representing luis

1898
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:35,119
elizondo i'm like

1899
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,920
so does it try to separate the two he's

1900
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:39,680
amazing like you said he's yeah so is

1901
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:40,079
right

1902
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:42,079
he's an amazing constitutional lawyer i

1903
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,839
mean between silkwood and pentagon

1904
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:45,119
papers and

1905
01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:46,880
everything else he's worked on it's it's

1906
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:48,400
just he's a top guy

1907
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,480
you want that guy in your corner lou is

1908
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:53,359
not lose no dummy lou knows how good she

1909
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:56,160
is and um yeah he's a he's a big part of

1910
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:57,760
this he's a key and

1911
01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:00,160
um back to i think it was last night

1912
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,000
somebody said that

1913
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,079
somebody who had asked jimmy carter do

1914
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:05,520
you remember who said that there was

1915
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:07,920
somebody who asked carter about

1916
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:09,760
something related to ufos and it wasn't

1917
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:11,599
marsha smith it's something i had never

1918
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:14,079
heard before and i forgot what it is but

1919
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:17,200
um i know what you're talking about uh

1920
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:19,280
it was uh oh it's david jake somebody

1921
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,119
david jacobs

1922
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:23,440
actually had had contact with carter i'm

1923
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:25,119
not sure i think carter may have reached

1924
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:26,400
out somebody from carter or the other

1925
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:27,119
way around

1926
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,799
but there was contact between david

1927
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,559
jacobs because we were trying to figure

1928
01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:32,880
out what would make carter cry

1929
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,720
after being briefed which i do think

1930
01:05:37,109 --> 01:05:36,400
happened um i don't know what he was

1931
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:37,119
told and that's

1932
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:38,720
we always we're always speculating on

1933
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:40,000
that but if there's some sort of

1934
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:41,280
connection with

1935
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,680
david jacobs you know you know david

1936
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:44,960
jacobs story they're going to

1937
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:48,880
rule the planet has jimmy carter

1938
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:52,079
commented beyond um you know those those

1939
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:53,599
initial statements like has

1940
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:56,240
what has he said as a matter of record

1941
01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:00,079
since then or has he dismissed the topic

1942
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:01,280
i don't know if he said anything

1943
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,160
recently um

1944
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:06,240
i don't know he's just spoken about his

1945
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:08,000
his sighting

1946
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:10,480
um nothing nothing expansive nothing

1947
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:11,359
that you know

1948
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,799
i would hope it would be great if he did

1949
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:15,680
at his at his

1950
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:17,520
older age tell us imagine he told us

1951
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:18,480
what he was briefed on but it's

1952
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:19,760
classified so he's not going to do that

1953
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,319
these guys don't do that

1954
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:25,440
yeah as far as i know no he has not uh

1955
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:28,240
we just added omega point

1956
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:29,599
to the street hey what's up man how are

1957
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:33,119
you i'm good where are you

1958
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,880
i am in dfw in texas north texas so i'm

1959
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:38,240
not too far from

1960
01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:41,359
danny yeah nice um thank you for coming

1961
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:41,680
on

1962
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:45,119
but yeah thanks for having me man so i

1963
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,599
i just went and watched the uh tucker

1964
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,039
carlson reluctantly because i'm not a

1965
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:50,799
tucker guy and i know you aren't either

1966
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:53,920
um i watched the the elizondo interview

1967
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:54,559
have we already

1968
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,240
discussed this did i miss that while i

1969
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:57,839
was gone no no no no no

1970
01:07:02,150 --> 01:06:59,119
definitely talk about it i'm gonna bring

1971
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:02,160
somebody else on but just so

1972
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,680
here's what's interesting um he came out

1973
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:07,440
and the first thing he did is pulled out

1974
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,760
a document a foia document

1975
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:11,280
now they didn't zoom on the document so

1976
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:12,799
we couldn't really see what it said but

1977
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,640
it was a foia document that he obtained

1978
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:16,799
with somebody called skyfort

1979
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:19,039
and i googled sky4 i can't find anything

1980
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:20,160
other than like

1981
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:21,680
structures or something i'd look look at

1982
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:24,319
for my kid so i don't know if that's

1983
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:25,680
perhaps

1984
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:27,680
uh that could be the contractor that

1985
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:29,119
he's working with that we don't know

1986
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,520
about

1987
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:31,119
you know i know he said he's mentioned

1988
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,640
that he's a con or we figured out he's a

1989
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,760
contractor for the government i don't

1990
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:34,720
remember if he said that or how he

1991
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:36,079
discovered that but

1992
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:39,839
um so they they obtained a foia document

1993
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,440
and he's he claims that the foia

1994
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:43,440
document and as this isn't really news

1995
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:44,480
to you and me

1996
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:47,839
um but that government has been

1997
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:50,799
um having issues with with specifically

1998
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:51,920
tic tacs since

1999
01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:54,240
uh for 70 years that's what he went on

2000
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:55,839
tucker and just dropped

2001
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,720
on everybody um so it that's really

2002
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,400
interesting that seems like a tren a

2003
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,400
change in strategy to me

2004
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:04,240
um of basically saying hey if you're

2005
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,520
going to water this down then i'm going

2006
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:07,440
to start dropping these foia documents

2007
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:08,720
now i don't know if these are documents

2008
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,960
that we that we would already have

2009
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:12,160
and maybe it's just that he has

2010
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,280
personally obtained them um

2011
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:17,359
and uh i don't i'm not sure if this is

2012
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,960
in relation to

2013
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,440
um you know a specific case i mean

2014
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:23,440
obviously there are lots of places with

2015
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:26,799
you know uh with with tic tac topology

2016
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:27,759
if you will

2017
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:30,799
um you know historically and i but but

2018
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,159
he was pretty strong about it so i'm

2019
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:33,520
hoping that we're going to see a leak of

2020
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,719
that somewhere pretty soon we can

2021
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,560
actually get a look at what document it

2022
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:37,600
is that he's

2023
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,000
that he's providing um i know that

2024
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,920
historical stuff was

2025
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:43,920
was really something a lot of us were

2026
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:45,520
were hoping that we would get

2027
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:47,440
because it seems like you know if they

2028
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,960
could give us anything

2029
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:50,560
um you know some of this is some of

2030
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:52,000
these historical documents would

2031
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,279
would be there um but i don't know man

2032
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,960
it's it's really interesting and i know

2033
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:58,319
he's supposed to be on with don lemon

2034
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:58,719
later

2035
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,239
so i don't know maybe maybe we'll get

2036
01:09:05,189 --> 01:09:02,480
more details there tucker really didn't

2037
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:05,199
seem to hone in on the document um he

2038
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,480
wanted to

2039
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:08,319
um to talk about the nuclear connection

2040
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:09,759
which is obviously awesome but

2041
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:13,359
um yeah so anyway come in and kind of

2042
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:14,480
talk about how was it

2043
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:15,920
somebody said that was it was not a

2044
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:18,080
great interview on on the stream

2045
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,600
was it's more the same besides the

2046
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:21,600
document no i mean

2047
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,440
yeah i mean basically besides the

2048
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:25,199
document it seemed like there there

2049
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,799
wasn't really anything new i mean he

2050
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:28,239
kind of rehashed what he'd already made

2051
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:29,839
a statement on twitter you know

2052
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:33,600
um about about uh he basically just went

2053
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:34,080
through the

2054
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:37,120
the the thinking of how this is

2055
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:38,159
you know a lot of these things are

2056
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,480
probably not china and russia um you

2057
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,679
know and we don't need to rehash all

2058
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:43,520
those arguments we know those arguments

2059
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:44,000
are

2060
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,759
um but other than that there really

2061
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:47,600
wasn't any new other than that document

2062
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,319
so

2063
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,000
but you know how lou does i mean he

2064
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,080
drops these breadcrumbs for us

2065
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:54,239
you know i mean that he he gives little

2066
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,679
subtle things almost every

2067
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:57,840
every interview and that document to be

2068
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:59,199
honest with you i think that's for the

2069
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:00,719
public but i think more even more so

2070
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,080
that's for you and me you know that's

2071
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:03,920
for us here on this stream and on ufo

2072
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,719
twitter and

2073
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,480
and just in the ufo community in general

2074
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:08,960
to now be salivating looking for this

2075
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:09,920
document

2076
01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:12,960
um so i i hopefully they'll i mean it's

2077
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,640
they foied it so i mean they ought to be

2078
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,480
able to just release it somewhere

2079
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,159
maybe minty hyperspace will drop it in

2080
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:19,679
there maybe sean drop it or someone will

2081
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:21,040
drop it so that we can see it

2082
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,400
but the other thing that was interesting

2083
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:24,159
is the skyfort connection because it

2084
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:25,679
said obtained by

2085
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,800
skyfort and luis elizondo so i i don't i

2086
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:30,560
have no id maybe somebody in the chat

2087
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,600
knows

2088
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:33,679
who skyfort is or maybe i'm i'm really

2089
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:34,719
bad at googling so

2090
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:37,120
you know that's very possible it's

2091
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,159
really key if

2092
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,400
i don't know it's really interesting if

2093
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,800
the mainstream reporters realize that

2094
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,159
you know a lot of them do not know

2095
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:45,840
anything about this subject but if

2096
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:48,719
if they realize that it goes back 70 80

2097
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,760
90 years

2098
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,199
that is going to be a big time

2099
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:53,040
breakthrough if we can get some

2100
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:55,679
reporter who's respected who just says

2101
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:57,679
i've done my research this goes back 90

2102
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,080
years

2103
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,239
this is not russia and china folks maybe

2104
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:01,920
some of it is you know

2105
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:03,679
some of what we're seeing that could be

2106
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,640
a breakthrough so those kind of

2107
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:06,320
documents he has spoken about that

2108
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:07,840
recently he's changed his tune a little

2109
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:09,760
bit saying you know this

2110
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:12,000
he's bringing up the old days which for

2111
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,440
a while he focused on

2112
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,520
what was going on right now but uh i'm

2113
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:17,679
going to bring in one more person

2114
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,390
cammy unmute your mic um omega is still

2115
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:27,760
there

2116
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:30,239
yeah i'm here man yeah so i i was

2117
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:31,120
thinking

2118
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,640
it's possible that that document could

2119
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,320
be about you know like the zamora

2120
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,320
incident or something like that i mean

2121
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,480
that's kind of classic tic tac stuff

2122
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,400
i don't know i mean he said specifically

2123
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:41,760
70 years but that's kind of a round

2124
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:42,800
number that we all

2125
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,840
throw around all the time so um i don't

2126
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,199
know i'm really interested to see what

2127
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:48,800
this document is and i agree with you

2128
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:49,600
about

2129
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:52,080
tucker i mean tucker is you know i'm not

2130
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:53,440
a big fan of tucker

2131
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:55,280
i'm a dirty lib you know i don't like

2132
01:12:01,750 --> 01:11:58,239
him um but at the same time

2133
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:01,760
he's i feel like his audience and what

2134
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:04,719
he's doing he's a lot more prone to

2135
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:06,719
to get into those aspects whereas i'm

2136
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,000
really interested to see where they

2137
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:10,080
get tonight on cnn with don lemon

2138
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:11,280
because i feel like they

2139
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:14,480
i feel like cnn and msnbc and

2140
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:17,360
you know those more kind of like um i

2141
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:17,920
guess more

2142
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:23,189
cable news networks they've been a lot

2143
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:24,880
more skeptical about this

2144
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,040
although i will say last night it was

2145
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:28,480
really interesting

2146
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:31,120
to see um anderson cooper and a couple

2147
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,800
of other people that really they didn't

2148
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:33,600
take the bait

2149
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:36,880
on this bogus new york times uh headline

2150
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:40,000
uh situation at all they they they

2151
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:41,440
called them on that it seems like pretty

2152
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:42,480
immediately and i

2153
01:12:48,310 --> 01:12:46,640
and i know that that's um that's in big

2154
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,320
that's in in large part due to what

2155
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,320
we're doing and just being really noisy

2156
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:51,520
about it but also

2157
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:52,800
there are a lot of journalists that are

2158
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,960
engaged on this now um investigative

2159
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,080
journalists

2160
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,400
um you know guys that and girls i just

2161
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,920
don't think are gonna like

2162
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,120
i just don't think they're gonna they're

2163
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,960
gonna leave this alone i think that this

2164
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:04,800
is a pr nightmare and that's something

2165
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:06,239
that even like last night on the chat i

2166
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:07,040
was talking about

2167
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,640
today i'm obsessed over it i look at

2168
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:10,080
this whole situation

2169
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,120
from like a pr strategy

2170
01:13:16,709 --> 01:13:15,120
um kind of we're caught in between a

2171
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:16,719
rock and a hard place what's the least

2172
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:18,320
damaging narrative that we can put out

2173
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,640
there

2174
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,920
and the least damaging narrative that

2175
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:21,920
they decided to put out there was

2176
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:24,800
to push the russian chinese tech angle

2177
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,960
which seems like the last thing that you

2178
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,320
would want to put out there

2179
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:30,800
um especially if you're trying to get

2180
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:31,760
out of the hot seat

2181
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,440
like that seems like that's going to get

2182
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:35,199
like you're you're heating it up

2183
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,400
right i mean you're getting more

2184
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:39,360
eyeballs on you these natsec reporters

2185
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:41,679
if they were reluctant to pursue ufos

2186
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,560
they're certainly not going to be

2187
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,320
reluctant to pursue chinese russian tech

2188
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:46,640
so i just don't understand

2189
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,600
that seems like the worst idea like but

2190
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,199
but for them that was the best idea like

2191
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,719
this is the this is the watered down

2192
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,239
stuff that they want to give us

2193
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:56,480
and and that tells you a lot and and i

2194
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,520
think a lot of these

2195
01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:59,600
investigative journalists are clueing

2196
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,600
into that and they're seeing that too

2197
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,960
they're getting smarter about this

2198
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:04,800
because i know you know a lot of you

2199
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,520
guys

2200
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:07,360
are talking to them behind the scenes

2201
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,880
they're following ufo twitter and

2202
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:09,840
they're getting

2203
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:12,400
educated on this subject now if we could

2204
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:13,600
just get some of them to read a few

2205
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:14,239
books

2206
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,280
that would be amazing but um you know

2207
01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:19,600
at least they're following at least

2208
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,280
they're actually asking people who have

2209
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,840
read books and have um seriously looked

2210
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:25,600
into this subject to

2211
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,719
to kind of be their guide you know it's

2212
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:30,239
funny because

2213
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:32,960
do you remember when the roswell roswell

2214
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:35,440
case closed came out and

2215
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:38,239
they said they were crash test dummies

2216
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:39,520
the media was really

2217
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,719
great i think there was one member of

2218
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:42,960
the media that came out that said um

2219
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,600
yeah but roswell happened in 47 and the

2220
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:47,440
crash test dummies weren't invented

2221
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:48,239
until

2222
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,880
i don't know 61. so yeah every now and

2223
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,560
then the media i mean back then was

2224
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:53,920
actually doing their job and now it

2225
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:56,000
seems like more and more back to you

2226
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:56,560
know

2227
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:59,280
i mean back to us not liking tucker but

2228
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,159
tucker

2229
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,360
good questions

2230
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:06,159
he's ra he's up on it these other guys

2231
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,840
are coming to it late but that's fine

2232
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,000
they'll catch up and they're all let's

2233
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,760
hope it becomes like trump

2234
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:14,080
trump coverage was just non-stop because

2235
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:15,440
they knew their ratings were off the

2236
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:16,640
charts

2237
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,400
if that happens with ufos it's just

2238
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,480
going to be non-stop and

2239
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,080
i mean i'm loving i'm already loving the

2240
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:24,000
coverage we're seeing now so i can't

2241
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:26,080
imagine if it gets that to that level

2242
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:27,600
what will happen what kind of

2243
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:29,679
investigative reporting will take place

2244
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,719
and

2245
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:32,560
cami you are on the show but you're

2246
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,480
muted so we can't hear you

2247
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:36,560
i don't know if you can hear us but

2248
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:38,719
unmute yourself and then you can talk oh

2249
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:41,040
she's gone or he gone

2250
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:44,880
oh man so yeah i'm reluctant on the

2251
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,159
tucker stuff man

2252
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:47,679
as well but at the same time i have to

2253
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:49,120
agree he's done a really good job

2254
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:50,080
covering this

2255
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:53,440
um and really at this point i feel like

2256
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:55,920
we can't worry i mean obviously we need

2257
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,679
to we need to look into what they're

2258
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:59,040
what they're trying to do on their end

2259
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,800
but i think whatever we give us

2260
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:02,400
whatever they give us we should run with

2261
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,920
and i feel like to some extent that's

2262
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,600
what lou and melon have done

2263
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:07,120
and that's what corbell and knapp are

2264
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:08,880
doing as well is anything that they can

2265
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:09,440
get

2266
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:12,080
they're running with it full steam ahead

2267
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,000
and i think that

2268
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:17,199
the fact that elizondo

2269
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:19,679
you know worked in counter intel that's

2270
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,120
not a bad thing

2271
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,600
that's a good thing and and so i think

2272
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:26,080
he he knows exactly what he's doing

2273
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:27,600
um and that's one of the reasons why i

2274
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:28,719
think that we really need to pay

2275
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,159
attention to these docs

2276
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,159
um that that he just dropped and who

2277
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:33,600
knows maybe they're old news but old

2278
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:34,320
news on

2279
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:37,600
carlson is new news you know um

2280
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:39,360
you know and if he drops it tonight on

2281
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:40,800
lemon that's that's

2282
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,600
great that gets reporters you know

2283
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:45,679
looking into that historical aspect of

2284
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,800
it and

2285
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,320
i mean that's what really got us all

2286
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,480
here i mean i didn't start in 2017 i

2287
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:52,320
know you didn't start in 2017.

2288
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:55,760
right um so you know we we've been here

2289
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:57,360
for a bit and so i think it's good to

2290
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:57,679
get

2291
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:00,320
newer people exposed um you know even

2292
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:02,080
nasa announced that they were looking

2293
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,679
into these cases but they announced that

2294
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:05,280
they were looking into

2295
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,480
um you know that based on navy reports

2296
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:10,480
like recent navy reports well

2297
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:13,280
my wife who's not into this at all uh

2298
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:14,719
was like that's bs

2299
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:16,239
like you're going to tell me that nasa

2300
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:17,440
hasn't been looking into this and that

2301
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:18,880
this they're only now starting to look

2302
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:19,679
into this

2303
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:22,400
i mean it's it's starting to get beyond

2304
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,600
pale where

2305
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,440
people who aren't in on this subject the

2306
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,120
way we are

2307
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,800
they they see that there's blood in the

2308
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,719
water too that there's something there

2309
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,040
um so anyway it's an exciting time man

2310
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:35,120
there's somebody else

2311
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,719
i don't i don't think there is nobody

2312
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:38,400
else nobody else is calling in

2313
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:41,360
nobody has any comments any questions

2314
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:42,719
somebody appreciate you

2315
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,719
come and rescue us because yeah man uh

2316
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:49,040
i want to talk about something else

2317
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,800
regarding danny sheehan

2318
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,560
so not too long ago i think it was a

2319
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:54,239
couple of days ago

2320
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,880
danny sheehan or someone i think it was

2321
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,000
on a podcast or something

2322
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,000
maybe sheehan said that he would

2323
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,320
represent any whistleblower

2324
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,880
that comes out on this topic for free

2325
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:05,760
okay

2326
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:07,760
i felt like that was a really huge

2327
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,679
development and i didn't see

2328
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:11,360
too much too many people pick up on it

2329
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,640
and maybe they did and they just didn't

2330
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:14,960
retweet me and i'm a giant narcissist so

2331
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,400
i missed it i definitely got it it's

2332
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,960
like well i guess nobody picked up on it

2333
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:21,360
yeah and so for me you know we're

2334
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,800
talking about advocacy

2335
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:24,640
and like lobbying our congressman and

2336
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,440
all that kind of stuff for me

2337
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,760
protecting whistleblowers if we're if we

2338
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:31,440
want to talk about like practical steps

2339
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,560
that we can take and

2340
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:34,880
and legislation that these you know

2341
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,320
supposed new

2342
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:39,520
um ufo lobbyists are going to start

2343
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:42,159
you know pursuing it seems to me like

2344
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:43,360
whistleblower

2345
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:46,400
advocacy and amnesty seems like

2346
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:50,159
a um it's that seems like a like a

2347
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:50,880
really key

2348
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,679
thing thing there and not just for

2349
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:55,199
people who are straight-up government

2350
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:56,080
employees

2351
01:19:02,310 --> 01:18:59,520
but people who are contractors

2352
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,320
if we can get that kind of protection if

2353
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,600
we can get them the same kind of

2354
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,280
reception that other whistleblowers have

2355
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:07,280
had which is a really warm reception

2356
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:10,640
in the media and um and also from our

2357
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,679
community

2358
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:14,239
and um and that seems like a really

2359
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,199
positive thing

2360
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,960
i mean you've got we know that we're

2361
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:18,800
waiting on hawkeye people

2362
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,000
um and you know to come out and

2363
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:25,040
um and at the same time i'm all about

2364
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:27,360
i want to hear from some acom employees

2365
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:29,040
i want to hear from some urs

2366
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:30,800
employees i want to hear from some eg g

2367
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:32,400
employees

2368
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,520
these legacy doe contractors

2369
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,679
i want to hear from them and it and if

2370
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:39,040
we can get people like sheehan

2371
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:40,400
representing them

2372
01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:43,520
for free um then that seems like a

2373
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,000
really good first step plus also

2374
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:48,000
um if the biden you know the bind

2375
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:49,440
administration says that they're all

2376
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:51,199
about transparency then surely that

2377
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:52,159
means that

2378
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:53,679
you know whistleblowers ought to be safe

2379
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:56,560
as well we do have a we do have another

2380
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:00,000
person joining us stan welcome thank you

2381
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,520
hey joey everyone you good um

2382
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:06,159
that's my twitter handle um just here in

2383
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:07,679
sydney australia and just want to say

2384
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,400
it's

2385
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:10,800
pretty amazing i was jumping in that

2386
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:13,199
chat yesterday with danny and just

2387
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:14,800
just watching everyone getting involved

2388
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,040
and just want to say amazing work

2389
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:19,120
i'm only been here since the new york

2390
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:20,560
times article

2391
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,920
which like cracked my head open

2392
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:26,159
and yeah i just want to say it's

2393
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,760
unbelievable keep up the good work

2394
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:29,280
everyone don't want to derail this thing

2395
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:30,320
too much but

2396
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:32,000
it's getting a little bit of coverage

2397
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,840
here there was the

2398
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:36,239
a 60 minutes thing and a seven news

2399
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,520
thing but

2400
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:40,080
none of my friends are into it my

2401
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,120
girlfriend doesn't

2402
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:44,159
seem to care um but just keep doing it

2403
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:47,440
um i think it's it's amazing and um

2404
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:50,400
the final thing i'll say is um just with

2405
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:50,719
this

2406
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,159
i think the important thing about the

2407
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,199
scientific community it's pretty easy to

2408
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,840
to bash on bill nye and stuff like that

2409
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:59,760
but we'll need to try and onboard them

2410
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,360
somehow

2411
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:03,040
not not just bash them up too much

2412
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,719
because i think they're going to be like

2413
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:06,960
an integral part of

2414
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:10,480
filtering this out but anyway uh

2415
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:12,719
keep other good work thank you no thank

2416
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:14,320
you for coming on and what's your name

2417
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:14,960
again

2418
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,679
tim tim no i agree with science and i've

2419
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,440
said this before we need to get the top

2420
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,560
scientists

2421
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,159
even though i'm not a fan of neil

2422
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:24,239
degrasse tyson if we can get them

2423
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,199
briefed in you know get them briefed and

2424
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:29,360
allow them to say

2425
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,360
okay i made fun of this for the longest

2426
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:33,199
time but i've seen some of these videos

2427
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,719
and i've seen some of the data

2428
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:36,960
this is amazing stuff if we can get that

2429
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:38,639
that would be such a gigantic step

2430
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:39,199
forward

2431
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:41,679
yeah i don't know how that happens yeah

2432
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:42,719
i think i saw

2433
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:45,360
there's a podcast theories of everything

2434
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:45,760
like

2435
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,679
and he's had a

2436
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:51,440
couple of people on i think he just did

2437
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:53,199
one with

2438
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:56,159
jack valet and thought they were talking

2439
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:58,159
about peer-reviewed papers actually

2440
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:00,000
and jacques was saying that there's one

2441
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:02,239
in the mix so this could be like one of

2442
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:03,760
the first

2443
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:09,350
it's like a bottleneck kind of thing but

2444
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:11,920
i think it's slowly cracking

2445
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:14,400
yeah and now it's picking up steam and

2446
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:15,040
just

2447
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:16,400
a couple of questions in the stream

2448
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:18,239
people asked if eric davis

2449
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:21,520
could speak through me vicariously no

2450
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:23,760
um he can't do anything to risk his job

2451
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,280
and and the other thing is

2452
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,000
people said i've mentioned there's i've

2453
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:30,719
heard there's a dark aspect to this

2454
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,760
topic you know i can't it's just if you

2455
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,280
go into certain

2456
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:37,520
authors and research and i get i got in

2457
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,480
so much trouble

2458
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:40,480
last year which i don't think i deserved

2459
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,480
it but i brought up david ike

2460
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,159
and i brought it up at the time because

2461
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:46,159
somebody behind the scenes

2462
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:50,080
said look at his work so you know

2463
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,320
so i said i shared it and i got flack

2464
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:54,320
for multiple reasons but yeah that stuff

2465
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:55,440
like that and then you have missing

2466
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,639
4-1-1

2467
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,120
is there a connection so i don't know if

2468
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,440
there's a if there's 100 a dark

2469
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:04,000
aspect to this but you know then you got

2470
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,920
david jacobs and his abduction work and

2471
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:07,120
he believes they're going to take over

2472
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:08,480
the world and they're making hybrids and

2473
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:09,920
they're going to replace us

2474
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,320
so but then you know part of me wants it

2475
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:13,920
not to be but i'm open to all

2476
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,000
possibilities all theories

2477
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,719
and the dark stuff it's just i've heard

2478
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,639
things behind the scenes you know

2479
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,400
that there's a dark story here and then

2480
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:24,000
will miller talks about a document

2481
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,800
related to the

2482
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:26,800
i think it's the nsa where it's called

2483
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,960
the document and only a few people can

2484
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,760
see it

2485
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,120
you know if it's related to just

2486
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:33,120
extraterrestrials and i just say just in

2487
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:34,239
quotation marks

2488
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:35,679
i didn't i wouldn't think it would be

2489
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,920
that secret so i don't have anything

2490
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,120
concrete

2491
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,679
uh but that's you know if you dive into

2492
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:43,120
some of the material look at

2493
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:44,320
and this is somebody who i have not

2494
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:45,440
looked into i don't know if you guys

2495
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,639
have read her

2496
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:48,800
um tim it's if you're new you probably

2497
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,840
don't know of her but she's

2498
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:51,840
controversial at least she was to me

2499
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,600
carla turner i don't know if omega of

2500
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:55,760
you have read her but carla turner

2501
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:58,480
is somebody who's i haven't yeah she's

2502
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,320
she's really i mean talking about

2503
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:02,719
that's of you know seeing humans and

2504
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:04,159
clones she's really out there but there

2505
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:05,760
are people that like no no no she's not

2506
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:06,239
out there

2507
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:09,040
she's just following the data so i i

2508
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:10,480
don't know what you guys think about you

2509
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:12,000
have opinions on what we're dealing with

2510
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:12,480
but i

2511
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,760
i don't know i still don't know what

2512
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:15,520
we're dealing with i mean

2513
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:17,840
if i don't yeah i think it is it is

2514
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,840
scary if you do think about that i mean

2515
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:21,600
thousands of people hundreds of

2516
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:23,679
thousands maybe millions

2517
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:27,120
are getting taken and you know they get

2518
01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:28,560
returned but

2519
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:30,239
there's something going on that's scary

2520
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:31,600
so i understand like

2521
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,480
people talk about why the secrecy that's

2522
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:36,000
pretty good reason i mean that would

2523
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:36,880
have

2524
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,520
that's going to freak people out when if

2525
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:41,760
you realize that i i suspect a lot of

2526
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,480
people just

2527
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:44,800
won't even go there mentally you know i

2528
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,080
think maybe we're

2529
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,960
maybe we're unique maybe but i mean how

2530
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:51,360
do you address that

2531
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:54,560
it's great and i i was going to do i was

2532
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,960
it wasn't me somebody was going to do an

2533
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,400
article on

2534
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:00,080
i think his j i think his name is john

2535
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:02,320
harrington and uh

2536
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,000
it was connected to bryce zabel and the

2537
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:06,239
guy said that he he told one of bryce's

2538
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,800
partners

2539
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,719
that he that he had been briefed for

2540
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,960
eight weeks at an underground facility

2541
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:12,480
and he cried himself to sleep

2542
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,719
every night so obviously the question is

2543
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:16,560
what the heck what did he hear to make

2544
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:17,360
him cry

2545
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,960
cry himself to sleep but i don't think i

2546
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:20,320
don't think we're gonna get that article

2547
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:21,920
i don't think he he wants anything to do

2548
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,480
with it

2549
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:24,239
or anybody connected to that story

2550
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,679
unfortunately

2551
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:28,719
so but i like i hope it's positive i

2552
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,679
hope it's some

2553
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,440
species on this planet that's worried

2554
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:33,199
about us nuking ourselves and they share

2555
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:34,080
the planet with us

2556
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:36,080
and that's all it is somehow i don't

2557
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:37,600
think it is so

2558
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,360
but i'm you know it's speculation that's

2559
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:41,120
all it is for me i don't have any

2560
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:42,239
evidence of anything that's why when

2561
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:42,880
people yeah

2562
01:25:46,709 --> 01:25:44,960
right you know well this it's

2563
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,719
interesting so like all the data

2564
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:48,560
that comes back the majority of people

2565
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:49,840
you know they say look

2566
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,920
don't ruin the planet and nuclear

2567
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:53,600
weapons are bad and stuff and then it's

2568
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,600
like okay is that the truth

2569
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:57,520
or are they just telling us that to keep

2570
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:58,880
us kind of

2571
01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:00,480
you know you can go down these these

2572
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:02,480
holes but um look i'll jump off and let

2573
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,239
other people chat but love your work

2574
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:06,320
okay thank you tim thank you so much for

2575
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:13,750
thanks for um for bringing up that that

2576
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:15,120
aspect of things i

2577
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:18,320
um i have i have big opinions about that

2578
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,560
but at the same time i'm very agnostic

2579
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,320
about it probably like you

2580
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:24,880
um for me i think one thing that that we

2581
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,840
see a lot

2582
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:27,840
is there's a lot of all or nothing

2583
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,760
thinking and you know we

2584
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:32,880
use the term the phenomenon um you know

2585
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:35,520
as sort of a catch-all for all of this

2586
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:36,080
and

2587
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:38,239
for me i feel like the data is just too

2588
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,360
diverse

2589
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:41,440
for us to have one thing like one

2590
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:43,360
monolithic group with one monolithic

2591
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,239
mission

2592
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:46,400
um i feel like if you were to take a

2593
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:48,239
couple of steps back and say like oh

2594
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,679
there were some squirrels

2595
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:51,440
and they wanted to know what are humans

2596
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:53,040
like and they saw all these different

2597
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:53,520
cars

2598
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:55,600
driving by right they might be like well

2599
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,199
those humans are

2600
01:27:02,629 --> 01:27:00,400
we're really

2601
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:02,639
focused more on the cars than who's

2602
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,440
driving

2603
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:05,199
and inside those cars you're going to

2604
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,480
have like

2605
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:08,000
all kinds of different people with all

2606
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:09,840
kinds of different you know

2607
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:12,639
ideas about um you know how to treat

2608
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:14,400
animals or how to treat you know should

2609
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:15,920
i swerve when i see a squirrel in my

2610
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:17,440
path this is a really bad unlimited

2611
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:18,719
analogy i should have chosen something

2612
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:19,360
better

2613
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:22,239
but um i just think this monolithic

2614
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:23,760
thinking about the phenomenon is where

2615
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:25,120
we get into trouble where we're like

2616
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:25,440
it's

2617
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:29,120
you could you could possibly have even

2618
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:30,480
the same thing going on

2619
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:32,320
with the same group and you have two

2620
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,360
different people that are going to come

2621
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:35,199
away with a different idea

2622
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:36,639
um with a different meaning and a

2623
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:38,400
different interpretation for that event

2624
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:39,280
that happened

2625
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,800
you know i i think we're we're getting

2626
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:43,440
beyond sort of like this is objectively

2627
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:46,480
morally right objectively morally wrong

2628
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,239
um territory and i think that

2629
01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:52,400
listening to experiencers is probably

2630
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,080
the best way

2631
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:56,080
um you know to ask them what does it

2632
01:28:03,189 --> 01:27:57,199
mean for you

2633
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,199
and to just kind of learn and i'm not an

2634
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:05,040
experiencer but i know quite a few

2635
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,480
and i feel like um

2636
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,840
something that i feel very strongly

2637
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:11,520
about is that

2638
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:14,000
um we ought to be advocates for that i

2639
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:15,120
think there's a there are a lot of

2640
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:16,480
people that we kind of think of this

2641
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:17,600
from a very strategic

2642
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:19,120
standpoint where well we don't want to

2643
01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:21,040
rush it too far because people might not

2644
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:22,159
be ready

2645
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,760
well there are a lot of experiencers out

2646
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:25,679
there probably more than i

2647
01:28:29,350 --> 01:28:28,080
almost surely more than we know um

2648
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:29,360
almost certainly

2649
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:30,639
that people that can't even talk to

2650
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:32,400
their therapists about this people they

2651
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:33,280
can't talk to the

2652
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:35,760
you know their family members um and i

2653
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,320
feel like if anybody can be advocates

2654
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:40,639
we ought to be advocates like if the ufo

2655
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:42,880
community can't talk about

2656
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:45,120
that aspect without flaming each other

2657
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:46,880
over it or calling each other dyspo

2658
01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:48,000
engines because

2659
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,520
we didn't list the cabal in the right

2660
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,760
order or because

2661
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:53,760
you know we didn't listen alphabetically

2662
01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:54,960
like it's

2663
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:57,679
absurd um and i think painting with

2664
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,800
broad brush

2665
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,719
um you know whether we're doing it from

2666
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:02,719
a love and light perspective or

2667
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:05,120
everything is terrible perspective i

2668
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,639
just don't think it's helpful

2669
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:08,800
um i mean it's fine if you want to do

2670
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:10,000
that i just don't think

2671
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:13,520
that people i feel like we ought to be

2672
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:15,360
able to talk about this in a very

2673
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,639
open-minded way without

2674
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:20,639
freaking everybody out that hey if you

2675
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:22,000
say that this is real that means that

2676
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:22,560
you're in

2677
01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,239
danger and everybody is right now or

2678
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:26,159
you're um

2679
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:28,000
you know everybody needs to start

2680
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:30,000
meditating to

2681
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:31,520
you know make contact with these beings

2682
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,880
because that's the best thing you could

2683
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:34,159
do with your life right now like the

2684
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:35,199
those are very

2685
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:37,520
those are two very different things and

2686
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:39,520
i i just feel like there has to be a

2687
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,320
middle ground

2688
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:42,159
somewhere we can have a conversation and

2689
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:43,679
listen to both of those

2690
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:46,400
those sides and and not feel like we

2691
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:47,600
have to choose

2692
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:50,080
a narrative if you will um and i think

2693
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:52,000
that will go a long way towards

2694
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,360
trying to make things a little bit more

2695
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:55,679
civil um in these parts but anyway i'm

2696
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:56,880
gonna peace out man

2697
01:29:59,669 --> 01:29:58,639
it's been great it's awesome you're

2698
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:59,679
doing this live stream you need to keep

2699
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:00,960
it up we're gonna do numbers

2700
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:03,360
we're gonna make it big um and you're

2701
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:04,960
gonna be wearing gold-plated diapers

2702
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:07,280
before you know it

2703
01:30:10,709 --> 01:30:08,880
yeah thank you so much for coming on

2704
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,719
it's been great and we'll do it again

2705
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:12,880
do it again next week definitely joe

2706
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:14,080
just to add on to that

2707
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,560
you know leslie keane in her book uh

2708
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:18,320
dental pilots and government officials

2709
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:20,560
go on the record um

2710
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,239
she she documented um a lot of incidents

2711
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:26,800
where people did have uh you know

2712
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,080
physical effects from

2713
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:30,320
phenomena you know whether that was uh

2714
01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:33,199
radiation burns radiation sicknesses

2715
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:36,239
uh there was an event in uh brazil um

2716
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:38,480
i believe where uh you know people were

2717
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,440
hit by

2718
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:41,440
what appeared to be a beam um there were

2719
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,520
people who got sick people who died

2720
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:45,360
uh there's you know been documented

2721
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:47,440
evidence of russian pilots who've tried

2722
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:48,000
to engage

2723
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,080
with these things um russia pilots who

2724
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:51,440
died so it's

2725
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:53,600
it's not um a scenario where you're

2726
01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:55,280
dealing with something that's just

2727
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:58,080
purely vanilla benevolent or you're

2728
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:59,520
dealing with something that's purely

2729
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,000
evil

2730
01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:02,400
you know like all this um it's it's it's

2731
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:03,760
a gray area

2732
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:05,360
um and there's different experiences

2733
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:07,040
from people so while you have some

2734
01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:08,880
people who have had

2735
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:11,040
abduction experiences where they claim

2736
01:31:14,709 --> 01:31:13,120
that you know it was a loving

2737
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,719
experience you have other people that

2738
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:16,719
are severely traumatized by it

2739
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:18,400
you know even when you look at the uh

2740
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,800
the aerial school uh scenario

2741
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:23,040
you know some of those kids i mean they

2742
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:24,159
they you know

2743
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,560
had messages that you know obviously

2744
01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:28,560
were jarring but you know they they took

2745
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:29,679
it

2746
01:31:35,189 --> 01:31:32,800
you know as something that they uh

2747
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:35,199
should you know learn about to protect

2748
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,480
the environment and other kids are

2749
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:38,239
traumatized by it so

2750
01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:39,440
you know it's it's been different

2751
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:41,920
experiences for different people um

2752
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,360
i don't really subscribe to just that

2753
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:47,520
you know steven grier hey we can just go

2754
01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:49,040
sit in the woods and meditate and we're

2755
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:50,239
just going to summon

2756
01:31:54,149 --> 01:31:53,360
you know some ufos to come and you know

2757
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,159
camp with us

2758
01:31:58,229 --> 01:31:56,400
i i don't think it's that simple you

2759
01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:58,239
know and and the evidence at least from

2760
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,360
what i've seen

2761
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:01,600
um it's wide and varied and then you

2762
01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:03,520
know the other side to it is you know

2763
01:32:07,910 --> 01:32:06,320
what role do categories play in this you

2764
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:07,920
know that's been something that's been

2765
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:09,040
occurring for

2766
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,679
god knows how long um i do believe that

2767
01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:13,199
you know there's a portion of it that

2768
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:15,760
is faked and i do believe that it's a

2769
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:18,000
portion of it that cannot be explained

2770
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:19,440
that may play a role within the

2771
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:21,760
phenomena you know how to how does that

2772
01:32:25,750 --> 01:32:24,239
play into it so you know there's just so

2773
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:25,760
many different

2774
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:28,480
aspects to this whole thing that uh you

2775
01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:29,760
know we need to get a better

2776
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:31,360
understanding of

2777
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:33,600
and another point um that i really

2778
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:34,960
wanted to double on um

2779
01:32:38,830 --> 01:32:37,040
was what an earlier caller had said

2780
01:32:40,229 --> 01:32:38,840
about you know the whistleblower

2781
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:40,239
protection um

2782
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:42,560
i really do hope that uh you know we do

2783
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,080
get some people that do get in touch

2784
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:45,600
with daniel sheehan

2785
01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:47,600
um i want to see him take a more

2786
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:49,360
prominent role you know i keep

2787
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:51,360
going back to that point i want to see

2788
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:52,639
him take a more prominent role in the

2789
01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:53,360
media

2790
01:32:57,189 --> 01:32:55,440
i want to see him really advocate for

2791
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,199
those people because once you get you

2792
01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:59,280
know pilots and people on record

2793
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:01,520
that at this point will come and talk

2794
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:03,520
about these experiences especially more

2795
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:04,480
modern

2796
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:07,040
um scenarios because don't forget that

2797
01:33:11,110 --> 01:33:09,199
you know louis lozando pointed out that

2798
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:11,120
you know we're still dealing with um

2799
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:13,040
incursions quote unquote

2800
01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:15,199
up through last week so you know these

2801
01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:16,880
things haven't stopped

2802
01:33:19,990 --> 01:33:19,040
and you know i i would love in some

2803
01:33:21,910 --> 01:33:20,000
capacity

2804
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:21,920
that some of these people you know would

2805
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:24,000
be willing to go on record to talk about

2806
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:24,880
these things

2807
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:28,239
um once we get to that point we get

2808
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:30,080
somebody modern because the most modern

2809
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:31,760
people we have talking about it

2810
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:34,320
are essentially people from a 2004

2811
01:33:37,990 --> 01:33:36,080
incident from 15 years ago

2812
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:38,000
and they're comfortable talking about it

2813
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:39,600
because you know that

2814
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:42,880
that whole nimitz incident was always

2815
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:44,800
declassified at no point was

2816
01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:47,600
was that information declassified maybe

2817
01:33:52,149 --> 01:33:48,639
certain um

2818
01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:52,159
you know methods of detection were were

2819
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:53,679
taken you know because you always hear

2820
01:33:56,790 --> 01:33:55,760
stories about that you know some of the

2821
01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:56,800
the radar

2822
01:34:01,669 --> 01:34:00,159
and other uh identifying characteristics

2823
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:01,679
that were collected on the tic tac

2824
01:34:04,550 --> 01:34:03,280
but they've been able to talk about it

2825
01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:04,560
you know in an open matter because it

2826
01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:04,960
was never

2827
01:34:08,229 --> 01:34:07,120
classified and they were never told not

2828
01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:08,239
to but

2829
01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:10,719
um the moment that we get someone who's

2830
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:12,719
willing to take that risk

2831
01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:14,960
and and really you know have some type

2832
01:34:17,990 --> 01:34:16,400
of whistleblower protection

2833
01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:18,000
you know that's when you just really

2834
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:19,840
blow the roof off of everything

2835
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:22,480
you know and and and you know it's funny

2836
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:23,679
you know like even let's say you know

2837
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:24,960
bring a bible

2838
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:26,800
you know there so many people that you

2839
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:28,000
know george knapp

2840
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:31,040
referenced um you know

2841
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,840
wouldn't this not be the opportunity to

2842
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:34,800
bring this up

2843
01:34:38,470 --> 01:34:36,800
is there not a better time same thing

2844
01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:38,480
about lazar he always references like

2845
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:39,679
you know there's certain things i could

2846
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:40,719
talk about

2847
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:43,600
and you know i choose not to well is

2848
01:34:46,229 --> 01:34:45,520
there no time like the present to talk

2849
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:46,239
about it

2850
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:48,159
when everybody is paying attention to

2851
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:50,320
this when all of these different media

2852
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:50,880
sources

2853
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:52,880
are focusing all their attention you

2854
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:54,800
gotta understand that the media cycle a

2855
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:56,320
year ago all we talked about was

2856
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:57,520
coronavirus

2857
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,360
last summer all we talked about was the

2858
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:01,679
protest the moment passes

2859
01:35:05,109 --> 01:35:03,679
you know so there's going to be no time

2860
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,119
like right now

2861
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:06,960
and you know sometimes you have to

2862
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:08,560
recognize the moment that you're

2863
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:11,600
in and and i would hope that you know

2864
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:13,840
they would use this opportunity to

2865
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:15,280
really expose

2866
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:18,000
what they really know if you really you

2867
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,560
know especially

2868
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:20,159
someone in the bottle if you really are

2869
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:22,560
trying to say that i want the public to

2870
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,440
know

2871
01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:25,440
about this incident you already went on

2872
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:27,679
record and said this stuff you know

2873
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:29,840
so it's not like you know you you you

2874
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:31,600
need to protect anything else you quote

2875
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:33,760
unquote had classified access

2876
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:34,960
and you disclosed things you weren't

2877
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:37,119
supposed to talk about go all the way

2878
01:35:39,189 --> 01:35:37,840
man

2879
01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:39,199
you know why why not what are you

2880
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:41,040
waiting for another 30 years

2881
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:44,159
come on i i i just feel like right now

2882
01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:45,840
yeah there's no time like the president

2883
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:47,840
capitalize on the moment

2884
01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:51,760
you know and yeah and we agree

2885
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:55,119
i think you and i and omega we agree

2886
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:56,080
that

2887
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:58,639
i want whistleblowers to come forward i

2888
01:36:01,270 --> 01:35:59,760
want more leaking

2889
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:01,280
as long as it's not damaging our

2890
01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:03,199
national security and so far what i've

2891
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:04,639
seen it has not

2892
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:07,040
i know el zondo is against that i

2893
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:09,040
wouldn't expect him to encourage

2894
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:10,719
leaking maybe maybe deep down inside

2895
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:12,159
he's he's happy that some of this has

2896
01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:13,360
happened that's

2897
01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:15,600
maybe not i don't know i mean publicly

2898
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,440
he's like i don't support leaking

2899
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,679
he wants to do it the right way but i

2900
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:21,679
mean the leaking has really gotten us

2901
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,119
the car a lot of the coverage that's

2902
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:25,360
taken place recently is because of the

2903
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,560
leaks that have come

2904
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:28,800
to jeremy corbell and george knapp um

2905
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,560
back to the negative aspects and i

2906
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:32,000
tweeted this the other day and it didn't

2907
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,800
get a lot of

2908
01:36:36,790 --> 01:36:34,880
attention i don't know why maybe people

2909
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:36,800
don't want to focus on it but

2910
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:39,280
gary nolan and kate greene work with

2911
01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:41,199
experiencers

2912
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:43,119
i i need to publish my my kit green

2913
01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:44,960
transcript the reason i haven't yet

2914
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:47,199
and it's not going to change but i saw i

2915
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,000
just need to do it

2916
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:50,400
is i wasn't able to do a follow-up with

2917
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:51,360
with green

2918
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:52,880
so it's a kind of an incomplete

2919
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,360
interview but he talks about

2920
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,280
how he gets his his cases and the only

2921
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,719
cases he takes is this

2922
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,560
and i haven't i don't have it memorized

2923
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:01,840
but basically it's an

2924
01:37:08,229 --> 01:37:05,040
up close it's an up close encounter with

2925
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:08,239
a uap and they are injured and it's a

2926
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:10,320
it's a it's a bad injury that's the only

2927
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:11,840
way he'll take those kind of cases

2928
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:12,560
they've

2929
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,080
their other doctors so they come to him

2930
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,080
so they're patients of green and nolan

2931
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:20,960
and greene in the book phenomena

2932
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:23,679
uh and annie jacobson she said the 25 of

2933
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:24,480
his patients

2934
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:27,760
die within five to seven years of

2935
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:30,080
diagnosis you know it's like if those

2936
01:37:33,669 --> 01:37:31,920
are if those you know green

2937
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:33,679
green thinks they're black projects

2938
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:36,000
which you know

2939
01:37:40,310 --> 01:37:38,000
whatever but if they're not black

2940
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:40,320
projects it's connected to kolaris it's

2941
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:41,679
connected to some of the work they did

2942
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:42,639
at awsap which

2943
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,400
hal put off mentioned in las vegas you

2944
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:46,239
know some of the injuries that you saw

2945
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:49,040
in polaris brazil they saw in the cases

2946
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,719
that they investigated for ossep

2947
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:53,199
so there is that negative aspect cited i

2948
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:54,880
i would be curious to see

2949
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:57,520
if put off and the others think like

2950
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,480
green does because

2951
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:00,560
green is green changes his mind a lot

2952
01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:02,560
when he finds new information not a bad

2953
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:03,199
thing

2954
01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:05,760
but i know he ha a lot of times he has a

2955
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:07,040
different opinion than

2956
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,880
the folks were you know the folks that

2957
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:10,320
we know that have worked with them in

2958
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:12,400
the past with valet and davis and put

2959
01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:13,199
off

2960
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,679
um so yeah that that's just that one

2961
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:17,520
part i wanted to

2962
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,840
bring up as far as injuries and the dark

2963
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:20,719
side

2964
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,600
speaking of uh put off in green um you

2965
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:24,960
brought up in an earlier blog

2966
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,040
uh some stuff about the uh remote

2967
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,280
viewing uh you you made a point to say

2968
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,280
that and if i'm not mistaken it was kick

2969
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:33,600
green who said that there were three

2970
01:38:36,709 --> 01:38:36,080
uh remote viewers from their stargate

2971
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:36,719
program

2972
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,400
that had about 95 accuracy

2973
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,719
and you put the initials of a person i

2974
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:44,000
thought it was jl

2975
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:45,920
i don't know if i'm if i'm wrong there

2976
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:47,520
you didn't want to go on record to say

2977
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,000
it

2978
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:50,639
but that person why i'll i'll tell you

2979
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:51,840
why um

2980
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:55,440
jl is now jl is james lecatsky who is

2981
01:38:59,030 --> 01:38:56,639
the head of ossap

2982
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,040
program manager he ran ossup i didn't

2983
01:39:03,430 --> 01:39:01,600
want to i saw i was calling him jl

2984
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:03,440
because i know he doesn't want the

2985
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:04,960
public publicity but

2986
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:07,920
keith basterfeld cast keith basterfield

2987
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:09,760
has spoken about him and named him so

2988
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:11,280
i've named him in some

2989
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,440
tweets and some articles he's the one

2990
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:15,119
that had the experience at skinwalker

2991
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,679
ranch

2992
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,440
where he saw a mobius loop and then he

2993
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:19,040
went to read and said we need to study

2994
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,000
ufos

2995
01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:22,800
and paranormal that was awesome but the

2996
01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:24,800
the three psychics that kid green said

2997
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,440
were

2998
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:26,800
you know close to almost a hundred

2999
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:32,229
ingo and i might be wrong about this but

3000
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,760
it'll swan joe mcmonicle and

3001
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,760
uri geller who talk about a lightning

3002
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:39,280
rod people think he's a fraud but

3003
01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:41,520
there's another one there's another one

3004
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:44,159
and she is in my blog she's the one that

3005
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,679
kate green worked with on that one

3006
01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:46,880
experiencer

3007
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:49,119
and she does not want her name public i

3008
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,719
want to know who she is can you just

3009
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:52,159
send me a dm or something

3010
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:53,520
yeah yeah i don't want to make her name

3011
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,880
public but if people want to know

3012
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:56,400
especially if people want a reading i

3013
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:57,679
did have a reading with her

3014
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:00,400
for i sent two friends to her both of

3015
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:02,000
them were happy with her reading

3016
01:40:06,709 --> 01:40:04,159
but she's more of a medical intuitive

3017
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,719
and when my dog was sick

3018
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:08,080
we couldn't figure out what was wrong

3019
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,280
with him so i said you know i'm gonna

3020
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:11,199
hire her so i did that

3021
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:13,760
and the problem is i mean she gave very

3022
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,360
detailed information

3023
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:17,280
the problem is to really know if she was

3024
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:19,679
right i would have had to have had an

3025
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:22,320
mri done on the dog and it was like i

3026
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:24,000
was like two thousand dollars and

3027
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:25,440
we would have had to put him under which

3028
01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:27,040
we didn't want to do and she said he's

3029
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:27,920
gonna get better

3030
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:30,960
she just told us some things to do i

3031
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:32,159
don't know if she was right but he did

3032
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:33,360
get better he's 100

3033
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:36,320
now um so i will give you her name and

3034
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,400
if anybody

3035
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:40,080
i'll i'll give her especially if people

3036
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:41,760
want to hire her i don't i just don't

3037
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:42,880
want to give her name out because she

3038
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,840
did not want her name

3039
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,520
because this people in the government

3040
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:47,199
don't want her doing that work it's the

3041
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:48,800
same people you hear about

3042
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:50,080
same thing with kit green they don't

3043
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:51,520
think we should be working on this so

3044
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:52,639
those people

3045
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,400
are not nice people and she doesn't she

3046
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:55,840
doesn't not she did not want to take any

3047
01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:57,119
risks she didn't want to be connected to

3048
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,320
it so she said

3049
01:41:01,350 --> 01:41:00,159
she said through kid green she said

3050
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:01,360
please she's told him

3051
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:03,760
to tell me please do not put my name out

3052
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:04,480
there so i didn't

3053
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:07,600
joke joe not for nothing you know

3054
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,960
let's just take like an honest

3055
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,560
assessment all this stuff you know when

3056
01:41:13,109 --> 01:41:12,080
you start to really go into the rabbit

3057
01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:13,119
hole

3058
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:14,719
at the surface you know you say to

3059
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:16,880
yourself you know these are

3060
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:20,320
uh unknown aircraft then you see it has

3061
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:21,920
flight characteristics and then you

3062
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:23,520
start to come into the idea of well

3063
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:25,199
maybe it's extraterrestrial right maybe

3064
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:27,199
it's coming from some alternate planet

3065
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,719
then you go further in and then you say

3066
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:30,320
yourself well maybe that's not the case

3067
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:31,199
maybe it's some

3068
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:33,440
interdimensional creatures and then you

3069
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:35,040
go a step further and you say you know

3070
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:35,520
what

3071
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,199
maybe um it's consciously controlled

3072
01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:41,600
mechanisms because somehow they can

3073
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,440
input thoughts into you

3074
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:45,199
and then you go into the aspect of well

3075
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:46,560
there are psychic

3076
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:49,199
beings or psychics on on a planet that

3077
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:51,040
can somehow communicate with them and

3078
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:51,840
see it

3079
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:55,040
you know it's it's hard how do you how

3080
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,520
do you

3081
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,360
how can you communicate this stuff to

3082
01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:59,440
the public it's like even when i say it

3083
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:00,880
out loud i'm like this is just

3084
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:04,480
it's insane you know but but

3085
01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:06,480
that's that's the hard part and now if

3086
01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:07,920
you're a government official

3087
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:10,159
let's just be realistic your government

3088
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:11,520
official it's it's

3089
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:14,239
post 9 11 argument's sake you got

3090
01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:15,280
al-qaeda

3091
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:16,960
you're worried about and then you got

3092
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:19,280
these people that are in some back room

3093
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,560
telling you about

3094
01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:22,560
some consciously controlled aircraft

3095
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,719
that make incursions into our airspace

3096
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:26,639
and i got a team of psychics that

3097
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:28,960
can communicate with them you gotta say

3098
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,800
to yourself what the [\h__\h] man

3099
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:33,119
you know i got saddam hussein i'm trying

3100
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:34,639
to go after and you're telling me about

3101
01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:35,440
this stuff

3102
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:39,520
it it it it's so hard to wrap your head

3103
01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:41,040
around

3104
01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:43,280
i you know i i just like even when i say

3105
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:44,960
it out loud you know i say to myself

3106
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:47,040
like wow this is just

3107
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:50,239
so beyond you know what what normal

3108
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:53,199
human comprehension encompasses it goes

3109
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:53,920
beyond

3110
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,560
what what i would imagine you know and i

3111
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:57,920
think that's a hard

3112
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,719
thing you know um but the reality is

3113
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:02,639
that they did study this stuff

3114
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:06,000
they did do investigations into it uh

3115
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:08,320
kit green and al put off they talk about

3116
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,320
the fact that these people were 95

3117
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:12,800
accurate i i just i don't know what to

3118
01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:14,239
think sometimes you know

3119
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:15,840
what are your thoughts on this the

3120
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,280
problem the problem with

3121
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,320
remote viewing and kit green talks about

3122
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:22,719
accuracy but only on medical cases where

3123
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:24,000
he's able to get feedback

3124
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:27,360
from data like via mris during

3125
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:30,719
in that in that blog i have she also did

3126
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,880
remote viewing you know she remote views

3127
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:34,560
the experiencer and she tells

3128
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:36,639
of his health conditions and he's able

3129
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:38,159
to check that and and that's where he

3130
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:39,119
gets that

3131
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,760
figure from but the information where

3132
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:43,679
she talks about extraterrestrials and

3133
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:44,560
working

3134
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:46,960
to solve some you know earthquake to

3135
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:48,639
make sure it doesn't happen some fault

3136
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:49,280
line that

3137
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:51,920
that stuff who you know he he admitted

3138
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:53,040
he agreed he goes

3139
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,560
there's no way for us to check that

3140
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:56,239
accuracy this is impossible

3141
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:58,880
so and you can't you can't just say well

3142
01:44:02,550 --> 01:43:59,360
she was

3143
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:02,560
95 on the medical then she's 95

3144
01:44:05,669 --> 01:44:04,080
on the extraterrestrial stuff you can't

3145
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:05,679
say that um but

3146
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,280
for me and i i i i can relate

3147
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:11,119
or i can understand people thinking a

3148
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:13,679
lot of this is so off the wall but for

3149
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,400
me

3150
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:16,239
when i first got into this i never

3151
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,840
thought it was off the wall i mean i had

3152
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,520
some experiences when i was younger

3153
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:21,040
but when i first got into this in the

3154
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:23,280
90s it was via

3155
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:25,119
whitley strieber's book you know

3156
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:26,800
communion and if you go into that it

3157
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,000
goes down the rabbit hole

3158
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,320
really quick and that just that's when i

3159
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:31,760
started reading everything i could get

3160
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,040
my hands on

3161
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:35,440
metaphysics wise then there's a lot of

3162
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:36,560
stuff that was

3163
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,800
now i consider it to be you know it's i

3164
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:40,239
don't know if i reject it but it's

3165
01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:41,600
definitely out there so when we talk

3166
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:42,639
about some of the stuff we're talking

3167
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:43,360
about now

3168
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:46,239
remote viewing is like it's so mild to

3169
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:46,719
me

3170
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,800
but there are people even on ufo twitter

3171
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,480
if you mention remote viewing they're

3172
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,080
like it's not it's nonsense it's

3173
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:54,000
it's pseudoscience i'm like no it isn't

3174
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:56,320
i mean 20 years the government studied

3175
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:56,639
it

3176
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:00,080
base a mission on but

3177
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:01,600
they would use other sources of

3178
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:03,280
information intel collection

3179
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:05,520
you know spies or or satellites plus the

3180
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:06,880
remote viewing and that's what they did

3181
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,440
with it

3182
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:09,760
and i cannot see them not having a

3183
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:12,159
program because it doesn't cost anything

3184
01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:14,239
you have people who are trained this

3185
01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:16,159
method that engel swan and hal put off

3186
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:17,679
came up came up with

3187
01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:19,520
and sometimes the results are just

3188
01:45:23,109 --> 01:45:21,520
amazing you know it's just no way you

3189
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:23,119
can get information like that

3190
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:25,520
so and it frustrates me that people say

3191
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:26,960
there's nothing to it and i'm like

3192
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:29,119
you can learn online there are videos

3193
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:31,440
there are manuals try it for yourself

3194
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:32,800
see what you come up with but people

3195
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,639
don't want to so you know

3196
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:37,199
but yeah it's hard to say if you're

3197
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:38,639
going to report on this subject it's

3198
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:39,040
hard

3199
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:43,440
cannot talk about atep without awesapp

3200
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:46,000
how it started but almost every every

3201
01:45:49,750 --> 01:45:46,639
reporter

3202
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:49,760
ignore it

3203
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:52,639
um and and here's the thing it because

3204
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:52,960
it's

3205
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:58,000
in a public forum like a news

3206
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:59,440
organization

3207
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:00,800
to say that you know we were

3208
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:03,600
investigating some conscious related

3209
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:06,960
phenomena on a ranch you know where we

3210
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:07,600
saw

3211
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,480
demons or not demons you know giant

3212
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:12,480
werewolves or or all these different

3213
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:13,840
things that they would see

3214
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:15,760
we couldn't really get it on videotape

3215
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:18,080
this thing seemed to be aware of us

3216
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,520
every time we tried to you know

3217
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:21,520
physically detect it it would invade us

3218
01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:22,000
and knew

3219
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:23,840
it was there but we all had these

3220
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:26,239
experiences you know davis talks about

3221
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:26,560
how

3222
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:29,199
it would interact with him a lot um

3223
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:30,320
that's difficult

3224
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:32,239
you know it's a lot it's a lot more

3225
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:33,600
straightforward to say that

3226
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,600
you know our pilot who we have electro

3227
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:37,360
optical and radar and all this other

3228
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:38,800
data that we're collecting

3229
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:40,800
are picking up uh aircraft that are

3230
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:42,480
being corroborated by

3231
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:44,880
eyewitness accounts you know that's more

3232
01:46:48,510 --> 01:46:45,840
straightforward

3233
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,520
but to go into that other aspect of the

3234
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:50,880
consciousness

3235
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:53,119
related phenomena and how that could be

3236
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:54,400
associated with

3237
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:57,199
what we're seeing you know with the uap

3238
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:57,600
that

3239
01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:59,920
it's a tough pill to swallow you know it

3240
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:01,840
is and and you know i think um you know

3241
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:03,360
with louis lozando i think that's why

3242
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:04,320
he's taking like this

3243
01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:08,480
uh it's really you know uh premeditated

3244
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:10,000
limited approach where you're just kind

3245
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:12,080
of slowly dripping things out

3246
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:14,800
you know if you watch his broadcast on

3247
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:15,360
um

3248
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:17,679
major news networks versus what he does

3249
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,960
with bloggers

3250
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:20,480
you know he he he speaks in

3251
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:22,159
generalizations um

3252
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:24,320
you know in those those major broadcasts

3253
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,080
you know he'll talk about the

3254
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:28,560
incursions and the potential of you know

3255
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,280
russia

3256
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,840
or china but you know when he starts to

3257
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:32,800
talk to

3258
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,719
the richard dolans and he talks to those

3259
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:36,560
other people then he can really delve

3260
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:38,560
into those further aspects

3261
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:41,040
you know the uh the consciousness uh

3262
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:43,760
related portions of what we're seeing

3263
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:45,280
and all those different things you know

3264
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:47,920
because i think he understands as do i

3265
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:50,000
that certain people are just not ready

3266
01:47:54,790 --> 01:47:51,600
um to to even

3267
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:54,800
um process you know the the the aspects

3268
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:56,159
of these things that

3269
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:59,040
you know uh go outside of of the normal

3270
01:48:02,550 --> 01:47:59,840
uh realm

3271
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:02,560
we've been brought up you know to at

3272
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:03,280
least you know

3273
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,639
think of this phenomenon as some aliens

3274
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:08,400
from another planet that's it it's that

3275
01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:09,920
simple that's the way we've always seen

3276
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:10,400
it

3277
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:12,000
you know from close encounters or third

3278
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:13,440
kind and everything else

3279
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:16,080
um when you start talking about you know

3280
01:48:19,109 --> 01:48:17,920
multiple dimensions the potential of

3281
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,119
these things coming from multiple

3282
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,639
dimensions or the fact that

3283
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,560
there may be like an alien base that

3284
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,080
exists under our oceans

3285
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:27,600
and you know now these things get thrown

3286
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:28,080
into

3287
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:31,199
the discussion that's a lot harder for

3288
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:32,239
people to process

3289
01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:33,679
you know we live in a three-dimensional

3290
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:35,840
world you know the the aspect of

3291
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:37,600
a four-dimensional space and these

3292
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:40,080
beings are just representations of a

3293
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:41,360
four-dimensional object in

3294
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:42,960
three-dimensional world and

3295
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,520
what does that mean how do you process

3296
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:47,520
that how do you study that

3297
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,320
you know um that's why i think that's

3298
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:52,480
why there's hesitancy among scientists

3299
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:53,840
i'm gonna go another place another

3300
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:55,520
reason why scientists don't

3301
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,719
um go into this aspect more

3302
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,719
is what their limitations are most

3303
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:02,800
scientists um especially at a university

3304
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:03,760
research level

3305
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:05,760
um they're looking for uh funding and

3306
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:07,679
publications that's that's the biggest

3307
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:08,239
thing

3308
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:09,920
you know i follow a lot of scientists on

3309
01:49:12,629 --> 01:49:11,520
twitter and by the way people follow me

3310
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:12,639
on twitter black tie

3311
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:16,239
blaq underscore ty um you you see a lot

3312
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:18,000
of scientists um

3313
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,760
that you know they they're they're

3314
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:21,679
pushing for for research most scientists

3315
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:23,520
at university levels are trying to get

3316
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:24,159
uh

3317
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:25,840
tenure um they're pushing out

3318
01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:27,920
publications and everything else they're

3319
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:29,599
trying to get grants and funding

3320
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:32,080
uh when you're doing peer-reviewed um

3321
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:32,800
research

3322
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,400
you know a lot of people that are are

3323
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:36,159
approving your research they have to

3324
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:37,040
have some

3325
01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:39,840
familiarity with what you've done so you

3326
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,880
know if you've got a scientist that's

3327
01:49:44,390 --> 01:49:42,800
doing research into uap

3328
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:44,400
you're not going to have a counterpart

3329
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,840
that's going to do the peer review of

3330
01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:46,880
your research

3331
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:48,639
that has any understanding of what you

3332
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:50,080
do so you're going to get

3333
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:52,239
that rejection and and i also feel like

3334
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,760
that's why that plays a role into why

3335
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:55,360
the neil degrasse tysons and all these

3336
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:56,000
other people

3337
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:57,520
and i know i bring his name up a lot but

3338
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:58,719
i'm just saying that you know he's been

3339
01:50:02,470 --> 01:50:00,080
very vocal about it

3340
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:02,480
um the sigma is there and not only is

3341
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:03,520
the stigma there

3342
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:05,520
the institution is set up so that you

3343
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:08,560
can't get proper research this is why

3344
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:10,639
jacques ballet has tried for the past 30

3345
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,719
years to get research

3346
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:15,360
peer-reviewed and published it's

3347
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,080
difficult

3348
01:50:19,589 --> 01:50:18,800
because the gatekeepers are there the

3349
01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:19,599
big thing is

3350
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:21,840
is that you need grant funding that's in

3351
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,960
place

3352
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:25,040
you need to have a peer review process

3353
01:50:27,669 --> 01:50:26,639
that will allow for this type of

3354
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:27,679
research to

3355
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,320
to make it into these institutions and

3356
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:32,159
you also need institutions of higher

3357
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:34,560
learning that will accept these things

3358
01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:38,320
avi loeb is a harvard

3359
01:50:43,109 --> 01:50:40,719
re uh harvard scientist he was the chair

3360
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:43,119
of the harvard astronomy department

3361
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:46,880
he basically released research

3362
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:50,239
about omua that asteroid and he says

3363
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:52,000
based on the evidence it appears that it

3364
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:52,639
may be

3365
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:55,199
of extraterrestrial origin you see the

3366
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:57,440
backlash that came against him

3367
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:59,040
you know where scientists are like

3368
01:51:02,390 --> 01:51:00,800
you're an embarrassment to us how can

3369
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:02,400
someone like that be an embarrassment

3370
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:03,040
because

3371
01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:05,119
he's basing on the evidence and as he

3372
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:06,320
said he's like what what's your

3373
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,280
explanation

3374
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:09,520
that this is this is a piece of uh

3375
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,440
frozen hydrogen that's floating through

3376
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:12,719
our galaxy

3377
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,040
we've never seen that before so why is

3378
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:16,800
your explanation that much better than

3379
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:17,280
mine

3380
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:20,159
you know why because it doesn't stir up

3381
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:21,119
the um

3382
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:22,960
the outside realm of what they're

3383
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:25,119
comfortable with it's not something that

3384
01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:26,000
they're willing to

3385
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:28,480
to to really broach you know we'll

3386
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:30,320
accept the fact that we find bacteria on

3387
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,599
mars because

3388
01:51:34,629 --> 01:51:33,199
you know we can go through that process

3389
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:34,639
this is a whole different

3390
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:38,400
ball game it really is and then

3391
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,159
um loeb you know he's been

3392
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:44,239
not as strong on ufos i'm not sure how

3393
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,920
much he's aware of the data but he's

3394
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:47,520
he's like let's look at it let's look at

3395
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:49,360
it and scientifically study it i mean

3396
01:51:52,390 --> 01:51:51,280
that's all we're asking for just don't

3397
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:52,400
mock it like you know

3398
01:51:57,990 --> 01:51:55,599
tyson um maybe there's you know

3399
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:58,000
if we can get funding for grants that'll

3400
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,199
change everything

3401
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:00,719
you know if there's some incentive for

3402
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:02,960
them to study this maybe they'll be more

3403
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:04,560
open-minded and actually take a look at

3404
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:06,000
it i mean we're going to need them

3405
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:09,760
you know to figure this out you know

3406
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,880
joe i want to see uh silicon valley

3407
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:14,719
and i think we're going to see something

3408
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:16,480
with silicon valley i don't recall the

3409
01:52:19,109 --> 01:52:17,760
name there was a researcher not a

3410
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,119
researcher there was a

3411
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,599
venture capitalist on silicon valley who

3412
01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:23,280
actually left his position

3413
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:26,480
um because he uh believed in ufos i

3414
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,599
don't know if anybody knows they should

3415
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:28,960
put his name in the chat

3416
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:32,639
oh but i believe so joe firmage yeah

3417
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:34,320
i printed out as i remember i printed

3418
01:52:40,030 --> 01:52:35,840
out his um

3419
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,040
500 page book what my job back in

3420
01:52:44,149 --> 01:52:42,960
98 or i think it was 98 and he took out

3421
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:44,159
a whole front page

3422
01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:46,159
uh ad on the usa today with all these

3423
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:47,679
great ufo quotes

3424
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,599
yeah he risked he took he had a an

3425
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,280
experience when he was laying in bed

3426
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:53,599
he saw this this being came to him and

3427
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:54,800
said what do you want he goes i want to

3428
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:56,639
travel in space and the being said

3429
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:58,159
what is what have you done to deserve

3430
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:00,320
this and yeah and that that

3431
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:02,800
there are people that like work with him

3432
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:03,520
we need

3433
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:07,920
counterpart like the harry milner who

3434
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:09,760
uh gave a hundred million dollars to

3435
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:11,119
seti um

3436
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:14,239
to furnish their their research um

3437
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:16,639
i believe that um that's gonna come from

3438
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:17,760
silicon valley

3439
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:19,360
you're gonna need like some some

3440
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:21,119
high-level person you know that's some

3441
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:22,880
venture capitalist with a lot of money

3442
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,880
who's willing to invest in this similar

3443
01:53:28,229 --> 01:53:26,560
to what bob bigelow did let's not

3444
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:28,239
discount the fact that

3445
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:30,239
what is happening right now can be

3446
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:32,480
directly traced back to bob bigelow

3447
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:34,960
it was george knapp who brought um

3448
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:36,159
senator harry reid

3449
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:38,560
to a scientific conference that was

3450
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:40,400
hosted by bob bigelow

3451
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:43,040
that opened up the eyes to harry reid

3452
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:44,400
who had intrigued him

3453
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,119
who years later you know uh brought 22

3454
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:49,199
million dollars to start osap

3455
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:52,400
and bob bigelow ended up becoming that

3456
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:54,880
uh contractor who won the award and was

3457
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:56,400
able to set that up

3458
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:58,320
and think about it bobby lowe you know

3459
01:54:01,669 --> 01:54:00,000
through his the money that he made

3460
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:01,679
through hotels and everything else

3461
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,679
you know he amassed that fortune so that

3462
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:05,840
he could research that phenomena which

3463
01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:08,400
led to osap which led to a tip which led

3464
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,239
to the situation that we're at now

3465
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:11,920
so you can see what happens with that

3466
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:13,440
type of funding so

3467
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,800
you know the reality is with a lot of

3468
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:16,480
scientists as long as they can get their

3469
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:17,440
publications

3470
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:18,800
put in place and they can get the

3471
01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:20,239
funding you're going to see things

3472
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:21,040
happen

3473
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,920
so um i hope that with the intention

3474
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:25,440
that's that's happening now

3475
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,080
that you're gonna see more um funding

3476
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:30,080
from private sources that come in

3477
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:32,960
and then um once that happens and people

3478
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:33,920
know that he can get

3479
01:54:37,750 --> 01:54:37,199
grant money to to furnish research which

3480
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:37,760
is what

3481
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,840
colleges want you know um i i go back to

3482
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,080
the real political aspect of ufo twitter

3483
01:54:47,589 --> 01:54:46,159
and i don't care how many times we talk

3484
01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:47,599
i'm gonna bring that up because i feel

3485
01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:49,199
like you know that strategy is what's

3486
01:54:52,790 --> 01:54:50,960
going to lead to true disclosure

3487
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:52,800
that you you give scientists an

3488
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:54,800
incentive to do this type of research

3489
01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:56,560
and they know they can get funding then

3490
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:57,920
they'll take it seriously

3491
01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:59,920
which will lead to more scientists

3492
01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:01,440
getting involved which will lead to more

3493
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:03,440
um peer-reviewed publications

3494
01:55:07,109 --> 01:55:05,599
if you can get the the the the sources

3495
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:07,119
and means of data collection

3496
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:10,000
available in in a more uh public fashion

3497
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:10,880
how does that happen

3498
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:13,199
i don't know but it needs to happen if

3499
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:14,159
you can get

3500
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:16,080
you know daniel sheehan to really keep

3501
01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:17,520
pushing for disclosure and you get the

3502
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:18,159
whistleblower

3503
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,000
protections then you can get more

3504
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:22,400
information brought out at a high level

3505
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:23,920
you know all these different aspects is

3506
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:25,280
what's going to lead to the truest

3507
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,080
portion of

3508
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,320
disclosure that we've ever seen with

3509
01:55:31,750 --> 01:55:30,239
that type of research so

3510
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:31,760
you know i have a strong belief in that

3511
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,280
and that's what's going to happen

3512
01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:35,119
um you know but we're definitely going

3513
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:36,800
to need that that person

3514
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:38,880
whether it's joe furman what is he doing

3515
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:39,760
right now this guy is a

3516
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,360
multi-millionaire i would hope that

3517
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,440
you know he would use this opportunity

3518
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:45,040
um to to offer

3519
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:47,679
funding or grant research and and what

3520
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:49,679
you said to your point with abi loeb i

3521
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:51,040
said this before

3522
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,239
he said in an interview today that

3523
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:57,040
he is willing to work with nasa on any

3524
01:55:59,669 --> 01:55:58,639
type of research that they will do in

3525
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:59,679
uap

3526
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:02,000
i hope that there is a venture

3527
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,440
capitalist is someone

3528
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:05,920
who has the means resources and finance

3529
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:06,480
to to

3530
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,000
offer that to him because if they see

3531
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:10,239
that he's getting grants to do this type

3532
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:11,360
of stuff

3533
01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:14,880
they'll shut up money talks ratings talk

3534
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:17,840
that's what brings the attention no i

3535
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:19,360
agree and and firmage

3536
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,199
i mean furniture's had problems personal

3537
01:56:25,109 --> 01:56:22,960
problems over the years and

3538
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,119
there was he had he had a device that he

3539
01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:27,040
was you know he was trying to

3540
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,920
create a perpetual motion i don't think

3541
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:31,679
it was anti-gravity it might have been

3542
01:56:35,589 --> 01:56:32,080
and

3543
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:35,599
other people

3544
01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:38,320
maybe maybe fugle were connected with it

3545
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:40,239
and it just turned out to be a total

3546
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:43,280
money pit and it's not a good situation

3547
01:56:48,790 --> 01:56:46,000
with him right now unfortunately um

3548
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,800
so yeah with firmage it's but we need

3549
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:50,400
more yeah we need more people like that

3550
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:52,159
we need people like bigelow and

3551
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:54,159
bigelow had his own personal experiences

3552
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:56,159
with death deaths in his family which

3553
01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:57,679
made him look into the consciousness

3554
01:57:02,310 --> 01:56:58,880
aspect of it

3555
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:02,320
um but we are making progress we're

3556
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:03,679
getting massive coverage like we've

3557
01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:04,719
never had before

3558
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:07,119
you know we're definitely we're we're

3559
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:08,719
all we're going down the path

3560
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,520
and it looks you know i'm happy to see

3561
01:57:15,030 --> 01:57:13,199
what we're seeing right now

3562
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:15,040
getting people like you interacting and

3563
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:16,400
ufo twitter

3564
01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:19,040
um amazing to see somebody you know like

3565
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:19,920
elizondo was

3566
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:22,560
just a gift to us the fact that he was

3567
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:24,080
involved and he's had his own he's

3568
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,679
talked about remote viewing a little bit

3569
01:57:28,149 --> 01:57:27,360
i'm sure he has a lot more to talk about

3570
01:57:30,709 --> 01:57:28,159
on that

3571
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:30,719
um there he's as a surface on so many

3572
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:31,280
things i

3573
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,840
i wish he could just speak unfettered

3574
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:35,199
without having to worry about his

3575
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,480
classification you know the

3576
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:39,119
classified uh information and and you

3577
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:40,880
know his oath that he's taken

3578
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:43,360
um because he's seen so much uh you know

3579
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:43,920
and and

3580
01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:44,880
you know i think the best thing with

3581
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:46,560
lula elizondo is that you know he's so

3582
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:47,360
articulate

3583
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:49,440
um i believe he's a perfect advocate i

3584
01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:51,040
don't subscribe to anybody in ufo

3585
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:52,639
twitter that talks about he's an agent

3586
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,840
or anything else the only reason why

3587
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:55,440
we're having this discussion is because

3588
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:55,840
of him

3589
01:57:59,990 --> 01:57:58,000
is because of chris mellon it's because

3590
01:58:00,629 --> 01:58:00,000
of people who are at the forefront that

3591
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,639
that are

3592
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:02,320
you know creating these this this this

3593
01:58:06,310 --> 01:58:04,239
discussion and let's not forget tom

3594
01:58:07,750 --> 01:58:06,320
delange i mean you know he he

3595
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:07,760
you know has definitely been so

3596
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:09,199
instrumental with all of this stuff you

3597
01:58:15,830 --> 01:58:09,840
know

3598
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:15,840
i cannot say enough like what an

3599
01:58:19,589 --> 01:58:17,440
incredible day today was

3600
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:19,599
you know to see the head of nasa i mean

3601
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,599
can you people really process that that

3602
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:23,119
the head of nasa is sitting there in an

3603
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:23,760
interview

3604
01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:25,679
and he's talking about the fact that he

3605
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:26,960
was briefed on this

3606
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:29,199
in a securities and insecurity briefing

3607
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:30,080
and he

3608
01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:33,199
is having scientists look into this the

3609
01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:34,000
fact that the

3610
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:36,560
uh the the the pentagon uh press

3611
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:37,199
secretary

3612
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:40,239
is being asked about crashed air uh

3613
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:43,040
crashed ufos and alien bodies that are

3614
01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:44,239
being stored

3615
01:58:47,750 --> 01:58:45,920
and that person is not being kicked out

3616
01:58:50,070 --> 01:58:47,760
of the room and and and

3617
01:58:51,669 --> 01:58:50,080
you know just just bringing handcuffs

3618
01:58:54,229 --> 01:58:51,679
the fact that you know that

3619
01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:54,239
question was given a rational answer i

3620
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:55,440
mean that this is just

3621
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:58,639
it's just unreal you know it's just what

3622
01:59:04,229 --> 01:58:59,280
a time

3623
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:04,239
joe one last thing you know because i'm

3624
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:05,440
gonna end up sleeping on the couch my

3625
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:06,159
wife she

3626
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:07,199
you know i'm sitting here talking about

3627
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,000
ufos for two hours um

3628
01:59:13,750 --> 01:59:12,560
you know you you you documented so many

3629
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:13,760
things uh you do

3630
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:16,480
so much research you know what's what's

3631
01:59:19,589 --> 01:59:18,080
one thing that you can share with us you

3632
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:19,599
know based on everything that you've

3633
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:20,400
done

3634
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:21,920
you you've had probably behind the

3635
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,800
scenes conversations with so many people

3636
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:26,480
you know what what are what are your

3637
01:59:30,070 --> 01:59:28,400
thoughts i mean you you document a lot

3638
01:59:32,229 --> 01:59:30,080
of what other people's thoughts are

3639
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:32,239
and you do give us glimpses of it but

3640
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:33,599
i'm just curious like you know just

3641
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:35,360
based on all the stuff you've seen and

3642
01:59:39,189 --> 01:59:36,320
you've learned

3643
01:59:40,149 --> 01:59:39,199
you know what what are your feelings

3644
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:40,159
conclusions

3645
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:43,760
you know what what what do you ascertain

3646
01:59:47,109 --> 01:59:44,000
from

3647
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:47,119
all of this you know my biggest

3648
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:50,880
and i've said this before that i think

3649
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:53,040
i've always felt that the uf you know us

3650
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:56,320
getting confirmation that ufos are real

3651
02:00:00,310 --> 01:59:58,560
would lead down the path to studying

3652
02:00:00,950 --> 02:00:00,320
consciousness and remote viewing and

3653
02:00:03,430 --> 02:00:00,960
human

3654
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:03,440
you know what's i'm trying to think of

3655
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:04,159
the word the

3656
02:00:07,990 --> 02:00:06,320
capabilities of humans you know because

3657
02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:08,000
i think we're capable so much and i

3658
02:00:11,189 --> 02:00:09,440
always thought if we got that

3659
02:00:12,310 --> 02:00:11,199
confirmation and the people would say oh

3660
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:12,320
you were right

3661
02:00:17,589 --> 02:00:16,000
ufos and then i'd say well there's other

3662
02:00:19,750 --> 02:00:17,599
stuff they lied to you about

3663
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:19,760
you know this is what you're capable of

3664
02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:21,520
you need to come look at this and

3665
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:23,679
one of the things i talk about and i

3666
02:00:25,990 --> 02:00:25,440
don't get a great resp reception on

3667
02:00:27,430 --> 02:00:26,000
twitter is

3668
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:27,440
the work of william bankston i don't

3669
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:28,800
know if you've ever seen me talk about

3670
02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:30,960
him but

3671
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,719
he's a sociologist who also is a

3672
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:34,639
statistician and he's worked with oh

3673
02:00:39,109 --> 02:00:37,679
with the health right with cancer yeah

3674
02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:39,119
he's done a lot of experiments where he

3675
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:40,800
injects mice with cancer and he does a

3676
02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:41,280
hand

3677
02:00:47,350 --> 02:00:46,000
are supposed to live to 27 days that's

3678
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:47,360
maximum they're supposed to live with

3679
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:48,639
that kind of cancer

3680
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:51,360
uh no no mouse has lived beyond 27 days

3681
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:52,320
as far as he knows

3682
02:00:55,669 --> 02:00:53,679
and the study has been done so many

3683
02:00:56,470 --> 02:00:55,679
times over the decades but with his

3684
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,480
method

3685
02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:58,880
they live to two years and and they can

3686
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:59,599
inject

3687
02:01:02,709 --> 02:01:00,639
they could take the blood from that

3688
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,719
mouse and then put it into another mouse

3689
02:01:06,390 --> 02:01:04,560
give that mouse cancer and the cancer

3690
02:01:07,270 --> 02:01:06,400
won't take so it's like the biggest

3691
02:01:10,229 --> 02:01:07,280
thing ever

3692
02:01:11,830 --> 02:01:10,239
if if that's true and i was always not

3693
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,840
into hands-on healing because there was

3694
02:01:14,709 --> 02:01:12,639
never any

3695
02:01:15,830 --> 02:01:14,719
evidence to back it up but he has the

3696
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:15,840
evidence and

3697
02:01:19,430 --> 02:01:17,920
so that's one thing people need to look

3698
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:19,440
at but you have to be open-minded

3699
02:01:21,990 --> 02:01:19,920
because

3700
02:01:23,589 --> 02:01:22,000
his technique he starts you know he

3701
02:01:25,589 --> 02:01:23,599
deals with stuff

3702
02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:25,599
that is really out there for a lot of

3703
02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:26,639
people um

3704
02:01:30,149 --> 02:01:28,320
which i won't get into now but he has

3705
02:01:31,830 --> 02:01:30,159
the data as far as the cancer and the

3706
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:31,840
medical stuff he has the data

3707
02:01:36,470 --> 02:01:35,040
um as far as the phenomenon

3708
02:01:38,310 --> 02:01:36,480
i'm surprised that some of the people

3709
02:01:41,189 --> 02:01:38,320
i've met who i call call

3710
02:01:41,750 --> 02:01:41,199
sources recently they're really open to

3711
02:01:43,750 --> 02:01:41,760
delong

3712
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:43,760
you would think like the long people

3713
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:46,000
said that was a disaster interview

3714
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:48,560
i have one source who works in intel you

3715
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:50,159
know he talks about the long

3716
02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:53,440
a lot um he's very open

3717
02:01:59,030 --> 02:01:57,119
open to some of this being very dark um

3718
02:02:00,550 --> 02:01:59,040
people know eric davis i'm not telling

3719
02:02:01,270 --> 02:02:00,560
anybody if you listen to him talk about

3720
02:02:04,470 --> 02:02:01,280
ufos

3721
02:02:07,430 --> 02:02:04,480
he says there's nothing good

3722
02:02:08,950 --> 02:02:07,440
related to ufos he's so down on it i

3723
02:02:11,270 --> 02:02:08,960
don't know if that's his

3724
02:02:12,629 --> 02:02:11,280
defense connection over the years he's

3725
02:02:14,390 --> 02:02:12,639
worked and you know with people in the

3726
02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:14,400
dod they just see it like that i don't

3727
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:15,040
know

3728
02:02:22,229 --> 02:02:19,119
about that

3729
02:02:23,830 --> 02:02:22,239
um i can't tell anybody that

3730
02:02:25,270 --> 02:02:23,840
this is what i this is what you should

3731
02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:25,280
do this is what you should think because

3732
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:27,040
i don't know myself and i changed my

3733
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:28,159
opinion

3734
02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:29,920
you know i don't change every day but i

3735
02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:32,320
i lean in different directions when i

3736
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:33,599
see certain information there's

3737
02:02:37,270 --> 02:02:35,360
information i saw 10 years ago

3738
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:37,280
that i rejected and i see it today and

3739
02:02:41,270 --> 02:02:38,880
it's like you know what

3740
02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:41,280
maybe there's something to that so i

3741
02:02:44,790 --> 02:02:42,800
don't really have any gold nugget to

3742
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:44,800
share

3743
02:02:48,310 --> 02:02:46,480
the remote viewing stuff is something i

3744
02:02:48,870 --> 02:02:48,320
i studied with lynn buchanan one of the

3745
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:48,880
top

3746
02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:51,360
teachers back in 97 i took prudence

3747
02:02:56,790 --> 02:02:53,440
calabrese who was another teacher

3748
02:02:58,790 --> 02:02:56,800
um that was great i love that stuff um

3749
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:58,800
so i definitely think it's not just i'm

3750
02:03:01,350 --> 02:03:00,400
definitely not a nuts and bolts guy i am

3751
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:01,360
definitely consciousness

3752
02:03:04,950 --> 02:03:02,800
related and i think that's where

3753
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:04,960
everything will wind up eventually

3754
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:06,960
and i and i'm pretty good about knowing

3755
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:08,880
my audience you know if i'm talking to

3756
02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:10,480
somebody right off the bat i don't bring

3757
02:03:13,510 --> 02:03:10,960
up

3758
02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:13,520
skinwalker ranch and and wolves being

3759
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:15,440
shot and not being able to be taken down

3760
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:16,480
by a gun and

3761
02:03:19,830 --> 02:03:18,400
and smoking dogs and trench coats i

3762
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:19,840
don't bring up any of that stuff

3763
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,480
but you know sometimes right away they

3764
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:24,239
want to jump into the most esoteric

3765
02:03:29,030 --> 02:03:24,880
stuff so

3766
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:29,040
you know i'll go there um so yeah i mean

3767
02:03:33,350 --> 02:03:31,280
i'm glad you were here because thank god

3768
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:33,360
for you tonight and omega because

3769
02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:34,960
you guys made it you know easy for two

3770
02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:37,119
hours um yeah and we'll def we'll

3771
02:03:40,629 --> 02:03:38,480
definitely do it again

3772
02:03:42,070 --> 02:03:40,639
um everybody in the chat i've been

3773
02:03:43,109 --> 02:03:42,080
following along as best i can in the

3774
02:03:44,629 --> 02:03:43,119
chat thank you so much

3775
02:03:46,390 --> 02:03:44,639
this is uh it's awesome it's been two

3776
02:03:48,069 --> 02:03:46,400
hours joe it's not for nothing you know

3777
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:48,079
i'm i'm actually amazed that i'm sitting

3778
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:49,280
here you know chatting with you i read

3779
02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:50,880
your blogs all the time

3780
02:03:55,109 --> 02:03:52,960
i've learned so much from you i mean the

3781
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:55,119
the in-depth analysis that you do with

3782
02:03:58,790 --> 02:03:56,000
the commentary

3783
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:58,800
in between it you know that that the the

3784
02:04:01,189 --> 02:04:00,719
one that you have pinned with uh dan

3785
02:04:03,189 --> 02:04:01,199
sheen

3786
02:04:04,870 --> 02:04:03,199
and you know stuff with louisando i mean

3787
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:04,880
just absolutely incredible

3788
02:04:07,990 --> 02:04:06,400
um so you know i just want to say you

3789
02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:08,000
know i just want to commend you for the

3790
02:04:12,790 --> 02:04:10,320
incredible work that you do um

3791
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:12,800
your transcripts uh just second to none

3792
02:04:16,390 --> 02:04:13,599
um your

3793
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:16,400
the audio uh portions that you've added

3794
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:18,239
is great i would ask that you keep doing

3795
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:19,840
that because i will keep doing that

3796
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:22,159
yeah it makes me it makes me feel better

3797
02:04:25,430 --> 02:04:23,760
because before if i'm

3798
02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:25,440
just doing transcripts i'm like somebody

3799
02:04:28,310 --> 02:04:26,960
called me that's not somebody took

3800
02:04:29,430 --> 02:04:28,320
somebody took a shot at me and i

3801
02:04:30,470 --> 02:04:29,440
understand they're like you're just a

3802
02:04:32,629 --> 02:04:30,480
sonographer

3803
02:04:33,669 --> 02:04:32,639
i'm like no you're not you're

3804
02:04:35,669 --> 02:04:33,679
documenting

3805
02:04:37,030 --> 02:04:35,679
the audio helps and hey it's great you

3806
02:04:38,629 --> 02:04:37,040
know and if you ever want to do

3807
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,639
audio commentary it would help me door

3808
02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:40,560
my morning commute okay

3809
02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:42,880
yeah when i when i finished and the

3810
02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:44,400
corbell nap thing

3811
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:46,719
summarizing and documenting and writing

3812
02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:48,320
down what they said over like five

3813
02:04:52,149 --> 02:04:50,480
interviews is taking me a while that's

3814
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:52,159
i have to finish that and i will i will

3815
02:04:55,990 --> 02:04:54,480
do an audio summary of everything

3816
02:04:58,229 --> 02:04:56,000
because it's important

3817
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:58,239
i think if those are uap it's one of the

3818
02:05:02,629 --> 02:04:59,760
most important cases going on

3819
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:02,639
on what happened in 2019 so absolutely

3820
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:03,840
absolutely incredible

3821
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:07,119
back again definitely thank you so much

3822
02:05:11,109 --> 02:05:08,639
for your feedback

3823
02:05:12,550 --> 02:05:11,119
everybody you know everybody thank you

3824
02:05:16,550 --> 02:05:12,560
catch you on twitter

3825
02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:16,560
take care take it easy um everybody i i

3826
02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:17,360
have not seen

3827
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:19,040
tucker i will look at that and i will

3828
02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:20,800
look at um

3829
02:05:24,709 --> 02:05:23,119
the don lemon interview so thank you

3830
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:24,719
everybody thank mav thank you julie

3831
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,679
thank you arya

3832
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,440
i appreciate it everybody else who came

3833
02:05:30,950 --> 02:05:29,360
in late

3834
02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:30,960
good first time you know we'll do it

3835
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:32,639
again i'll do it again next week as long

3836
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:33,840
as people want to keep doing it

3837
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:35,360
hopefully people will call in beside

3838
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because i need you guys to ask questions

3839
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and drive the conversation because i run